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[–] LastJudgement@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Love the blue description just saying "???" lmao how the fuck did these people come to that name, nobody knows

[–] Deebster@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

It sounds derived/corrupted from Ionian.

[–] Yax@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, every word is made up. Looks like this one is made up "from lonia, the ancient region (western Asia Minor) occupied by the lonian people" as it says in the graphic as well as the suffix "stan", which you probably know from some other countries and "is Persian and Urdu for “place of” or “where one stands”" according to dictionary.com.

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

bulgaristan sırbistan hırvatistan macaristan

[–] azi@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Sounds like something an anti-Hui racist visiting Dali would say

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Sounds like a name for china

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Greeks living in current western Turkey were called Ionians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionians

They were mostly athenean settlers, which is why when Persia conquered them, they asked Athens for help. Athens helped them but the ionian revolt failed and Persia was super pissed. The persian emperor had his servant reminding him daily to "remember the athenians".

This is the main reason behind the persian invasion of mainland Greece. The persians burnt Athens to the ground, which eventually led to Alexander the OK burning Persepolis(Persian Empire's Capital) to the ground(a couple centuries later).

Since turks came from the East, Ionians were kinda the first greeks they met, so they decided that all greeks are Ionians(Yunans). Or other non greeks in the East were already calling greeks "yunans" and turks just adopted that terminology too. Especially since that term had been mostly depreciated by the time the turks arrived to the neighbourhood.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 9 points 11 months ago

I think the Germanic influence of adding land at the end should have been a different color. It's still based in Latin, but still a significant difference imho.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Brief search suggests Alydzej is Circassian name for Greece and may come from 'ellada'

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also I love how seemingly around the costal lines people use the same name/the op doesn't have any idea where the name came from

[–] Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Option that philosophy was founded there. Where was it and why the distinction between the two.

Plato and Socrates were Greek but the Greek culture was spread around. Ex Archimedes was from Sicily.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of Sicily was a greek and Syracuse was a greek colony. In fact Archimedes helped defend it against the romans. Most of southern Italy was greek, before Rome became big(and conquered other italians, greeks and carthaginians).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia

And even after the romans conquered "everything", greek culture was still dominant since the romans were greekaboos(and greek culture was everywhere because of Alexander the OK).

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Alexander the Adequate

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's a varangian connection with Norway's use of Hellas?

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Apparently they changed it just to spite the Danes.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I love the few regions that probably translate to "those fuckers" over some beef that began in prehistory. "Wise, huh? You wise guys can suck Alydzej njutz."