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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago

"Use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity" is a very weird way to say "Killing your own people en masse to damage your enemy's chances at negotiation"

[–] niph@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole policy shows how Israel views humans: as nothing more than assets. Property.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The whole point of birthright is to convince naive young Jewish people from abroad to make aliyah, marry Israelis and make Jewish babies. Bog standard ethnonationalism

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Really? Because the IOF swore up and down that this policy didn't exist anymore debatejak

Given how much they've told the truth, I'm sure we'll eventually learn that they opened fire on the music festival that gets tossed around so much because they couldn't tell people apart.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this was already basically confirmed? All those cars were not destroyed by AKM’s and RPG’s.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah there was a thing with the helicopter pilots saying "Well okay so we didn't really know who we were shooting at but we think they were hamas"

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eventually we're going to learn that Hamas killed maybe 5 people at most, and everyone else died because of the IOF being trigger happy with bombs and missiles.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the-boys-are-back-in-town

"What are they shooting at? We haven't even gotten there yet!"

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Time traveler: "On October 7, 2023, Hamas will breach the wall and take many hostages in an attack where many will die!"

Netanyahu: "I know."

[–] Doods 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's one of those things I tried to tell redditors on the first 2 weeks of the war, and they called me insane.

Edit: The other things include:

"Israel is only taking high-precision for the US bombs so they don't accidentally hit Hamas and hurt the genocide effort"

And a general sentiment that Israel isn't cooperating with Hamas, they're genuinely scared.

And another sentiment that Hamas aren't another ISIS funded by foreigners, they're actual Jihadis.

Some of these would still get me called insane, actually, even claiming Israel's committing a genocide would, so whatever.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh they just... up and said it? Huh

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course. There will be zero consequences so they may as well. In fact libs will probably bend over backwards to defend it. "Oh look what atrocities Hamas FORCED Israel to dooooo!

[–] niph@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

whomst amongst us hath not.. checks notes indiscriminately murdered hundreds of our own soldiers and citizens out of spite?

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely libs will not go with "they forced the idf to kill their own civilians", right...?

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have given up thinking i can beat libs at limbo.

Lemme take a crack at their brainworms thesis.

"hamas infiltrated the military. it stands to reason hamas inflitrators did most of the killing. IDF may have killed some with crossfire/shrapnel/missile failure.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

sicko-beaming

The idea that Al-Qassam operatives have infiltrated the Israeli Occupation Force opens the gate to even funnier theoreticals

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

The American press is even less honest about this shit than the Israeli press.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Western hegemony will keep supporting them regardless

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like we fucking said months ago. So all the X number is Israelis who died on 7 October that was tossed around was indeed bullshit.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

1400 INNOCENT CIVILIANS~~!!!!!

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1200 innocent civilians with titles like 'sgt-major'.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBH the median age for a Sgt. Major in the IOF is a toddler.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

this medal here is for teething

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Israeli government even recently downgraded the number to 1100

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Oh, a new number dropped.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Hamas may have killed a few dozen, but I wouldn’t even bet on that.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

👏 Most 👏 moral 👏 army 👏

Everyone is just gonna act like this is completely normal together with the cum extraction unit thing.

[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Not the conspiracy theory turning out to be true once again.

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

when i was a kid i was traumatized by all the terrorism shit that was popping off- and setting aside the fact that I now believe saudi intelligence may have kicked it off on our behalf, i didn't understand why anybody would hate our nation - or israel, and other nations allied to us, back then - it just seemed like baseless hatred

but in 2023 it's very easy to acknowledge that the US is the great satan, and our puppets in the middle east - saudi arabia and israel - are equally demonic. Our worst, most brutal critics, when they weren't on our own payroll, ended up being right. the Empire is so god damned cruel and evil. I want this to end so badly.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

potentially civilians as well

surprised-pika-messed-up

also: added this to effort post about Oct 7th and Hannibal Directive: https://hexbear.net/post/1609134

and the whole haaretz site is giving 403s rn

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

you have no good car destruction ideas

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Worth rereading these older stories in context with this story from haaretz

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/shoot-everything-how-israeli-pilots-killed-their-own-civilians

There was also an interview with a young woman helicopter pilot on Oct 7 that talked about how many times they went back for loads of hellfire rockets, free firing at things that moved. I can't find that interview now though, I don't recall the outlet it was in.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

iirc that interview is mentioned on screen or audio is excerpted in GDF's video about Oct 7 Hannibal:

How Israel Merked its Own Civilians on October 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjTki-OgKQ

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I've missed you

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

old effort post with lots of links for context of various hannibal instances on Oct 7th: https://hexbear.net/post/1609134

here is the helicopter colonel that describes 20+ helicopters having to re-arm during the day because of all the shooting they did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r63nmfbIUBA

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/we-blew-israeli-houses-7-october-says-israeli-colonel

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Doods 1 points 11 months ago

I'll add piped.ngn.tf

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Holy shit, there it is.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Mass hannibal

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Least surprising development

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Incredibly normal country

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

i hope they hannibal themselves