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The Sotheby's auction house has been named as a defendant in a lawsuit filed by investors who regret buying Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs that sold for highly inflated prices during the NFT craze in 2021.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 183 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Nope. Too bad, they knew what they were buying. That they convinced themselves the value they attributed to it would remain or increase is entirely on them. The fact that so many others saw it through a realistic lens means they had the same ability and chose not to.

But that said, the proceeds for them should also get clawed back and 100% put toward scam identification education. Neither side in this one should walk away enriched.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly I’m ok with them keeping their money, afaik everyone knew where they were buying they were just dumb enough to think it would ever be worth something. If we want to claw back money from people we should start with the ones ruining the environment to make the line go up

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 years ago

I mean yeah, if you make it illegal for dumb people to overpay for stupid shit, half the global economy would collapse overnight

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[–] wamasi@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Should've invested in beanie babies like the rest of the smart people.

[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nah man, pogs are where it's at. Pogs!

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Joking aside, I miss my Pogs. Those need to come back.

I actually looked this up recently. You can buy pog makers!

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Back in the mid-90s I had a friend who inherited $40,000 from her grandmother and spent all of it on $75 Fossil watches, the kind that were based on old cartoons like Popeye etc. And it took her a while to do it since she would drive to malls within a few hours of her and clean out the department stores that carried them. That's over 500 watches, a few at a time.

She was adamant that this was an excellent investment, but these are on eBay now for $50 to $60. At parties she would pull out the collection and start showing them to people (no touchy, of course) as if there was something intrinsically interesting about a cartoon Fossil watch. The sad thing is, with $40,000 in hand she probably could have bought two or three times as many from a wholesaler and maybe eventually actually have made some money.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

At least with beanie babies there was a physical object.

[–] omgarm@feddit.nl 99 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The fact that they still sell for 50k is insane. It's a shitty picture with a convoluted proof of ownership. The fuck.

[–] atretador@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A lot of those transactions is just to up the price so dumb asses think they are worth it. The other half is just dumb asses ofc.

[–] Tugboater203@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It has to be some form of money laundering.

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[–] Sassy@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago

I hope the defendant loses, but the damages shouldn’t be awarded to the fools who bought the NFTs. That money should go to literally anyone else, because they’ve already proved they can’t be trusted with money. Fuck both sides of this dispute.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wish I had the temerity to sue people when an ‘investment’ doesn’t go my way.

I’m sure they’d have sued Sotheby’s if they made lots of profit right?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was the bit about Sotheby's misrepresenting FTX as a buyer, but that doesn't make me any more sympathetic to their situation. Which, now that I've typed that, is extremely cynical when I like to think of myself as empathetic. I'm gonna try to change my take here. I like @db2's take that the money should be invested in public education.

[–] kimpilled 11 points 2 years ago

I don’t think it would have mattered had they known. FTX was still in their good graces at the time, and FTX didn’t actually scam anyone (in this particular transaction lmao).

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's an average price of over $241,000, but Bored Ape NFTs now sell for a floor price of about $50,000 worth of ether cryptocrurrency, according to CoinGecko data accessed today.

Wait till they realize the actual value is $0.

[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

The 50k value is itself propped up by fake transactions anyways. Since these sales are public, they can just push some around between two paid off clients to give the impression this is their worth.

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[–] minorninth@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Wait...the article says they're still worth $50k each.

Really?

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Collective delusion of people who still think they're holding onto something worth anything

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[–] musictechgeek@lemdit.com 32 points 2 years ago

A foolish monkey and his bananas are soon parted.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

When the price of all that worthless shit was going up these bozos smugly told anyone who told them it was worthless to ‘have fun staying poor’. They made their bed. They need to eat their loses.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 22 points 2 years ago

How much are NFTs worth? Not a Fucking Thing!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Nonono you didn't read the article, the company behind says these are unique, and they were promoted by famous people, and auctioned at Sotheby's.

Trust me, clearly they are very valuable, honest! Somehow they are claimed to still be worth $50,000!! I bet in another couple of years they'll still be worth way over erh let me think, they may still be worth something, maybe a couple hundred? It's the future, it's a sure thing!!

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 22 points 2 years ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't even understand how someone could fall for NFTs. It was so obviously a stupid, broken concept from the very beginning, it hurts to know that anyone actually was so dumb spent money on this.

[–] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

Conmen typically target people of low intelligence in scams because it increases the chances of said scam being successful, like the classic Nigerian Prince scam littered with spelling inaccuracies aimed at duping the idiots.

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[–] patachu@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just checked in on how NBA Topshot (basically sports highlight NFTs) are doing and apparently they are still finding greater fools.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they are only greater fools if they come from the greater fool plains of the US, otherwise it's just sparkling bagholders.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just don't buy the "worthless digital monkeys" and they'll be so worthless that their value will be in the negatives; they'll give you money.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In fairness, they didn't buy the monkeys, they bought a spot on the blockchain that says they own the hyperlink to the picture of the monkey.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Remember when Seth Green said he had a whole TV show ready to go based on his his Bored Ape and then someone stole it? He paid $300,000 to get it back and ever since... no TV show. I'm wondering if he's just embarrassed at this point.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

buy stupid NFT

pitch TV show about said NFT

get investors to pay for it

take out insurance on NFT and TV show

never bother to make TV show

just collect salary as passive income

“leak” private key a few days before “release”

collect insurance to repay investors

profit

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 2 years ago

GEE, WHO THE FUCK COULD'VE FORESEEN SUCH TURN OF EVENTS, HUH??? If only there were people that realized very early on that NFTs were absolutely pointless, right?

Sarcasm aside, even being the USA, I doubt there's any law that criminalizes shit investments. Despite everything, NFTs and cryptocoins themselves still aren't legally considered scams, so investing in them and losing money due to their price fluctuations aren't crimes.

Yuga colluded with fine arts broker, Defendant Sotheby's, to run a deceptive auction.

Isn't that the modus operandi of art auctions in general? There's always at least one or two fellas doing everything in their power to pump up prices of certain pieces or specific artists, since they have big collections.

Sotheby's Metaverse, an NFT trading platform opened after the auction, "operated (or attempted to operate) as an unregistered broker of securities."

Ooohh, now that could be interesting, though I highly doubt they'll get more than a slap on the wrist, if it gets that far.

[–] steve228uk@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh I didn’t realise FTX was involved in this grift 😂

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[–] Slitted@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of all the stupid NFTs, I'm glad to see the bored ape collapse.

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[–] artvandelay@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nfts could have been a revolutionary technology and we instead had a bunch of hucksters racing to reinvent scams with it.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The technology's still out there, can do whatever you want with it.

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[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

2021: "NFTs aren't like tulips at all!!!"

2023: crickets

[–] CrimsonFlash@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about these.

[–] jampacked@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They capitalized on how this happens in the art world but saves a canvas and frame by making it digital.

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