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I'm an elder millennial. While I'm good on my computer use, cars are starting to get too advanced for me to repair myself. Eventually, I'll have an electric car and be entirely dependent on a mechanic to repair the vehicle.

I don't think so. I do think there will be a decline as we get older, but the overall level of aptitude will be higher than the generations before and after. It's the younger generations I'm worried about. Other commenters have already mentioned it, they've grown up with already well-polished UX to the point that they don't need to understand how a device works to use it. Most of us here have a high level understanding of how computers work, the app or browser you're reading this from, because we had to understand how they worked if we wanted to be able to use them when we were younger.

As a millennial who grew up with the early internet and a home computer, I think we'll be fine until we're not.

When the Chinese hackers find a way to patch our wiping robots with software that sodomizes you while humming Yìyǒngjūn Jìnxíngqǔ, I think we may struggle a bit.

Honestly, I doubt it. We got in on this sort of stuff early in life, so I don't think we'll struggle.

My experience is the more things “just work” the worse people are with the tech.

Those who grew up with computers in the 80s are typically the best at problem solving / hacking / debugging.

My kids literally don’t have a fucking clue, sadly. I thought they were going to grow up super geniuses with the amazing technology they inherited.

I will. I’m eldest Gen Z (+ a software developer) and I’m already noticing that I’ve just stopped engaging with new tech. I know that one day 30 years down the line I’m going to probably struggle with new tech.

Tech in general is advancing at such an exponential rate that it’s going to surpass a whole lot of people quickly.

I don't think that will happen. Mom used to build websites, and dad is in charge of tech support for a power company. They are in their mid-late 60s. But they've worked with computers most of my life. We have had home computers since the mid 1980s. Neither of them have trouble with smartphones, tablets, or any other electronics.

The way some of my older millenial and x-er friends are reacting to AI I sort of wonder if that'll be the dividing line between generations. Someone in their 40-50s can probably afford to ignore AI in the coming years but a zoomer ignores it at their own peril. I bet there'll be millenials in a couple decades complaining about how it's crazy the youths have 'AI friends'.

Absolutely. They will try to plug keyboards and screens into the neuralink chip.

The exception to your rule may be the boomers who grew up learning how to program without OOP or a modern IDE, who could manually correct an error in a punch card with sellotape and who could write a complete accounting system to run on a machine with 32K RAM and no hard disk. Now get off my lawn.

Honestly, I think yes, it’s inevitable. The reason why is that keeping up with constantly changing technologies requires constantly learning how to do everything over again, and again, and again. It will get tiring eventually, and people will feel that learning the ins and outs of yet another social media app just isn’t worth it when they can already get by.

I say this as as software developer who sees a new tool or framework or language come out every year that’s bigger and better than the last, and I see the writing on the wall for myself. I’ll be outdated and just some old geezer who works on legacy tech stacks in 10-20 years, just like the guys working in COBOL or whatever now.

As a millennial that was born near the end of the cut off I think millennials will adapt well and likely better than most any other group except maybe Gen x.

We were brought up in the infancy of personal computer technology where everything was more difficult and convoluted than it is for preceding generations. We started out at minimum using DOS and having to circumvent the older operating systems where even the simple task of chatting with your friends online was a multi step process. Since that point things have really only gotten simpler.

If we were to create a meta person who has the general computer competence of their generation and tested them I think we would find that Gen x and millennials are not only as well adjusted to modern technology but also faster to adapt to it. They will likely be faster at solving issues and problems as the skills and knowledge they had to adopt early in life to do even simple things still applies to the basis of all computing that we have today. Even very simple things like file navigation, adjusting basic computer settings, setting up a computer, modifying files, and even using web searches to troubleshoot problems are strengths that millennials and Gen x will have that will likely see a fall off from there after in the other generations.

Computer incompetence has become increasingly more common over time to the point we are reaching now in the United States where it's fallen off so much is becoming a crisis as kids growing up now can simply only use phones and tablets and actual basic computer skills have become an issue. With the cheap cost of electronics there is even less interest in kids to learn how to solve issues on their devices as they see it as easier to just buy a new device altogether and avoid troubleshooting altogether.

Will they? They already are. The number of people I see who don't know what a file manager is is insane. It's insane because I remember before smartphones, everyone knew what a file manager was. They forgot? I don't know. It makes no sense to me.

I think in general, people are bad with technology.

The most common complaint I hear on most websites is "I have been here on this website since the first days, and now they redesigned the site and I can't find the place to change my profile picture", so you can already see signs of this.

The reverse also applies too. I notice other Gen Z members often asking things like "how do I make a forum" when they clearly just made a forum thread (they're called threads, not forums) to ask the question. It's like the internet equivalent of "how do I get Green Mario", "why can't Metroid crawl", "why does Zelda always have to save the princess", and "what gives X-man his long nails".

100% sure, I don't even know how to use discord, that shit is confusing as hell while the fediverse is no biggie

And I am completly ignorant about tech I intentionally chose to ignore like tiktok and snapchat

I already am.

They already are.

I recall seeing studies posted back on Reddit basically stating that since modern tech is (usually) easy to use and highly polished, young people simply don't understand how the underlying tech really works. On the flip side, those of us who grew up having to set up comm ports and allocating extended RAM and set dip switches on computers kind of had to learn how all this worked or else none of our stuff would function. If you understand the basics then it is easier to deal with stuff when it goes wrong - it doesn't become an unsolvable box of mystery.

I have much more faith in getting a problem resolved nowadays by a younger Boomer or Gen X'er who tinkered with some of the early computer tech from the 80s & 90s, than a Zoomer or Millennial who has only ever used iPhones and modern Macs.