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U.S. Presidency requests another $24 billion in aid for Ukrainian régime despite public opposition (www.workers.org)

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Biden has reason to worry about getting approval. This worry goes beyond the visceral rejection of anything to do with Biden by ultra-right Republicans who never met a warplane they didn’t like. A CNN poll published Aug. 4 showed 55% of the respondents opposing more aid to Ukraine. Even more telling, about 80% of those polled believe the war will drag on indefinitely.

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[–] Detectorist@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

I would like to request one trillion dollars to be distributed to the indigenous peoples of North America (currently occupied).

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have NO opposition against any & all support for Ukraine.

They need their full country united (eg: Crimea) and Putin's bullshit stopped!

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah I agree, Putler definitely needs stopping

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.studio 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im totally saving this image for later use

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It’s an emote on Lemmygrad and Hexbear

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“This article needs additional citations for verification”

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Human Rights Watch has covered dedovshchina, including reports of sexual violence.

Russian prison culture has informed its military culture.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Oh. That’s a good point. You really showed me how wrong I was. I wish that I were as smart as you.

[+] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee -13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Oppose colonialism in all its forms, including invasions of neighbors.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assume you also oppose the 2014 US-planned coup, then

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, no doubt that Nuland and Obama needled the shit out of Russia and picked Ukraine’s president.

It’s possible to believe NATO egged Russia on, but that what Russia did it response to it is/was appalling.

Not to mention, any army that allows NCOs to buttfuck their own troops as a form of discipline should be stuffed back inside its borders just on GP.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

any army that allows NCOs to buttfuck their own troops as a form of discipline

what are you talking about

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Oops, meant to reply directly to you earlier, but posted to main thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what should Russia have done?

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Something other than civilian kill lists, systematized rape, torture, pillage, and cultural extirpation. The way Russia conducts warfare is intolerable.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you have proof for any of those claims?

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

They're pretty well documented in non-Russian media, with videos of torture rooms, interviews with torture and rape victims, medical examinations of related injuries, and mass graves with bodies showing clear evidence of torture.

I am a bit surprised that you are asking for proof, given the scale of the reporting.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The question was what they should have done, you haven't answered it.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

Bet on different horses, to start. The propping up of dogshit puppets and the recapitulation of the vertically-integrated corruption of Russia’s political & economic model was badly executed in Ukraine. The FSB spread its money in the wrong places, and there was little effort to sway hearts and minds at the retail level. Russia fucked this part up all by themselves.

Second, fight the war like professionals and honor modern conventions on rape and torture. Once Russia got so far behind the eight-ball that Putin felt a full invasion was necessary, Russia chose to fight and subjugate like it was the 16th century, with an army seemingly unbound by morality or professionalism. On this basis alone, I’ll continue to support any efforts to eject Russia.

[–] MCU_H8ER@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not colonialism.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

"The practice by which a powerful country directly controls less powerful countries and uses their resources to increase its own power and wealth.”

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I agree, dismantle the US and nuke Washington!