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[–] FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone 139 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Goldmaster@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Maybe same text just laforge format. Fediverce is star trek.

[–] StarManta@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago (30 children)

Trying to claim the term “Web3” is a futile battle. It is already widely understood to mean crypto and blockchain. If I see a job posting that says the company is built on Web3, I know immediately that the job is built on scams and grifts without having to ask further questions. Web3 as a term is ruined already.

For this to work it must be a different term than Web3. Maybe “Web 3.0” is different enough?

[–] kimpilled 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I suggest forking Web3 into at least three competing things

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just do what USB does and call it "Web 3 v2"

[–] vidumec@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

also Web 3.0 was already a thing (semantic web), cryptobros just stole the term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

[–] RobotToaster 10 points 2 years ago

Which is pretty much what activitypub is a part of.

[–] cxfredeper@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Web x" is dumb marketing speak. It exists because people who use the phrase can't intelligently talk about the actual underlying technology.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago

I think it's useful terminology, but only very generally and in hindsight. Web 1 is a pretty clear era in the 90s and early 2000s, characterized by simple static blogs and personal websites, and email. Everyone knew this would be big, but nobody figured out how, that was the dotcom bubble. Web 2 began with the rise of big tech companies like Google and Facebook in the late 2000s, it has been characterized by social media apps, centralized platforms hosting user created content, funded by targeted advertising and data mining. Web apps became possible and smartphones took over. Every product became a subscription service.

I think we're at the start of web 3, but it's hard to say what that is yet. The big tech companies are crumbling and there's increasing unrest at the old system of web 2. Fed up users are turning to platforms like this. There's a lot of demand for crypto nonsense like NFTs. AI is changing the way we do everything.

I hope that web 3 is the age of decentralization because that would be awesome, but it's impossible to predict the future.

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[–] AndreTelevise@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Or perhaps Web 3.1. But seriously, I would call it the Federated Web.

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Blockchain and crypto are both decentralized, which is exactly what Web3 is defined as. Just because they came before federated websites doesn't mean the definition is exclusive to them. I would call "Web3" ruined, rather I would say that ActivityPub is the first great implementation of it.

PS: The distinction between Web 3 and Web 3.0 is giving me some real USB 3.2 Gen 1 vibes.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Web 3.0 was the semantic web.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

but how do I give someone .0045 cents for no apparent reason??

[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't forget the 40 dollar transaction fee

[–] Feddyteddy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only people that think this is correct are ones that learned about crypto 5 years ago and never thought to update their information. The lightning network allows for tiny bitcoin transactions with sub one cent transaction fees. In addition to that, the transactions happen in less than a second.

[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

As long as you have a channel with that person preconfigured and funded right? Otherwise you need to do an on chain transaction with on chain fees to set up that sub one cent transaction.

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[–] marv99@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

GNU Taler. Ah, question was rhetorical :)

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I also think IPFS (non filecoin version) could prove useful in the future as well.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

A post mentioning IPFS that hasn't been downvoted into the mantle? I'm impressed.

It seems that most people don't have any idea that it's not reliant upon blockchain.

Somebody asked the other day about hosting websites on cell phones. I mentioned that IPFS would be just about perfect for that and everyone got out their pitchforks.

[–] cynetri@midwest.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's IPFS in layman's terms? The Wikipedia is hard for me to follow lol

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[–] NatoBoram@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

IPFS is great, but also so difficult to get it right

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 44 points 2 years ago

Noooooooooo, you can't like things that can evade stupid and needless monetization!

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

it's insulting to consider cryptocurrency or blockchain as any kind of next generation thing

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[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

Look at me is federated and decentralized

I am the web3 now

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I hate the term Web3, the name itself feels like gaslighting. It tries to imply like it's the next step for the web. It's just grifting and is absolutely impractical lol.

Notice how Web3 blew up because of insane VC money, then suddenly dies what feels like overnight. They didn't care about decentralization, otherwise they'd actually invest in non Blockchain bullshit. But then they can't scam with crypto coins.

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I call it web3.0++ its web3.0 after the concussion wore off.

[–] NatoBoram@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Web 3.1, this time with realistic use cases!

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[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Don't forget about nfts there the future man they can't be replicated man where can you spend 100k and by the end of the week your investment is worh $3.50

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Where you spend 100k for a JPEG

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The JPEG isn’t even on the blockchain for the majority of NFTs. It’s just a URL to a JPEG on a server someone else owns. If they take down the server, sell it, it gets hacked, the url scheme changes, etc someone is now the proud owner of a broken link lol

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago (26 children)

Its not a jpeg man its an nft it uses blockchain man it can't be replicated its totally the future now let me plug in 50 gpus I got to start mining

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[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would see that crypto and blockchain scam as more like the last breath of Web2, given the monetization thing

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

No. Web2 is about user generated content (as opposed to the static pages of Web1) - crapto stuff hardly fits the bill. Like it or not, it really does belong to Web3 - which is about decentralization.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago

Now that's a definition I can get behind.

[–] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Federation was we 1.0 people forget all major chatting services used to be integrated. You could have a yahoo im show up on your aim chatbox.

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