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Thread update: Prigozhin's fucking dead.

rip-bozo


The BRICS summit will begin on Tuesday and end on Thursday, with various world leaders, politicians, and representatives meeting in Johannesburg, South Africa.

America's anxiety about the summit has been obvious. They have been complicating the event by pushing for the arrest warrant for Putin to be upheld if he steps foot in the country. While this is a remarkably dangerous and unhinged thing to do - even by America's standards - to the leader of a nuclear superpower who could end the world within an hour, it does betray their desperation. Unfortunately, for those of us who wanted to see Putin surrounded by an army of security guards fending off people holding handcuffs, he has sent his Foreign Minister, Lavrov, in his place. Additionally, America has likely been spreading rumors about the lack of interest in gaining new members in the organization.

With apparently 20 countries formally seeking membership and another 20 informally doing so, the bloc has been elevated, whether they like it or not, to the position of the international vanguard of the non-western world. It is extremely important to say that this is not the same as it becoming an anti-American bloc, and many of them (including original members Brazil and India) wish to keep a friendly relationship with the United States. Nonetheless, with the United States' policy of "if you are not with us, you are against us," and as the US seeks to weaken China, in coming years many of them might find themselves under hostile pressure.

BRICS has to try and solve many problems if they are going to chip away at America's stranglehold of the world economy. These problems - like mitigating the dollar's status as a global reserve currency, and America's dominant role in the world economy - are extremely complicated, and will takes years, even decades, to be overcome. Therefore, one should temper their expectations and excitement for this summit. It took tens of millions of deaths in cataclysmic wars, and then several more decades, for America to reach its current position. I see no reason to believe why its downfall will be any less bloody and elongated.

To end on a less depressing note, I've been searching for appropriate anagrams given the list of countries that seek to join BRICS. Obviously not all of them will make it in, but even so. The best I've come up with is HIBISCUS EMANCIPATES BBBBKKRVV.

(also, "bulletins and news discussion" can be rearranged to "libidinous newsstands uncles".)


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

got his ass in the most classic way possible lmao

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Looks like we're going to have another 1000+ comments megathread.

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (6 children)

So far Blowback Season 4 is making me genuinely angry.

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[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

Prigozhin has released a new video, presumably from Africa. He's got a delightful new costume and it looks like he's finally left St. Petersburg.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1693682355980890216

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the ancap clown becomes President and goes ahead with destroying all the Government department that he claims to (mostly social services), i hope there will be riots.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I'm late to the party. Is he actually dead or is he in the desert? Who has confirmed what?

Other passengers? Named? Families interviewed yet? Do the other people actually exist?

I don't think you should believe he's dead without being shown a body lmao

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[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

rip-bozo Wow that was a big-ass window he just fell from

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (10 children)

So what happens next? If he's dead then I assume the meatheads in wagner are gonna be pissed

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

My guys are solid. I vetted them with great care.

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[–] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

the parasocial imprinting that a lot of pro russian people online developed is so weeeeird. i get having that towards putin, but pringles??

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (11 children)

remember when that former CIA administrator said August 22 was going to be the end of the american empire for BRICS reasons? Did anything actually happen?

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

anyone else feel a bit more weird about Prigo's death?

Putin in the past typically assassinated his opponents using more covert methods like poisoning. Taking down a plane is much more overt. Also, if he were going to kill him why send him to Belarus in the first place? It gives me sus vibes.

Ukraine/West has as much motive to kill Prigo because of his ties to Wagner as Putin does. What do you all think?

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pringles led an armed rebellion during wartime and made Putin look weak. He had to be offed in a much more spectacular way than your average defecting spy or annoying blogger.

He couldn't be killed right away. During the attempted Pringles putsch the main concern of the Russian state was to defuse the situation and get the organised armed men to go home without bloodshed. The Belarus deal made sure this happened. Now the risk of a new coup attempt has decreased and Pringles could be killed safely.

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Tempted to spend the rest of my day making a Prigo memorial montage set to Tiny Dancer instead of doing my actual job.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

my russian feeds are claiming it was ukrainian operatives that did this. sounds like cope lmfao

[–] OnlyTrueLiberal@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like ukrainians wouldn't brag about killing prigo inside russia if they had anything to do with it. I'm guessing that putin didn't like his stunt and prigo with other wagner leaders had to go.

It would be funny if this was actually real accident.

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[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

I feel like it’s too soon for trump-kubrick-stare

We needed:

  • trump-who-must-go
  • trump-anguish
  • trump-death-note
  • trump-kaneki
  • trump-feed
  • trump-drenched

AND THEN we get trump-kubrick-stare

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

https://archive.is/IdEUB

Unarchived link

BAE Systems renews US contract to produce more Bradley fighting vehicles

I can't believe they're still fucking making more Bradley's lmao.

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Man, one hell of a day. Drove an hour for this thing for work, car broke down and had to deal with that. I miss anything?

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Is Erdogan’s High-Wire Act Running Out of Rope?

TLDR: Despite the words uttered at the Vilnius NATO summit, Turkiye still doesn't seem particularly willing to let Sweden into NATO. Erdogan still continues to play both sides off each other because it's in his interests to do so, but he probably can't do this forever.

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[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (6 children)

yeah I'm a big fan of BRICSUSESEA how did you know

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The real question: how will this affect Prigo's position in the weekly tier list

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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So, it sounds like the other passengers on the plane were also Wagner leadership?

If so, taking out Prigo and everyone who would raise a fuss about it looks like too good of an opportunity to pass up.

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[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The NYT & WSJ’s Critical Articles About Kiev’s Counteroffensive Explain Why It Failed

Mouthpieces of the biden regime have started airing dirty laundry. Does this mean the proxy war could end soon and they're trying to blame ukraine for the future loss?

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Prigo: SHOIGU MUST GO!!!

Shoigu: Who must go?

Prigo:

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