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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 86 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure if Bitcoin had the largest and most powerful military in the world it would have become the world reserve currency by now

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Alright who wants to start a new country with me

[–] explodicle@local106.com 1 points 2 years ago

Depends, will you have free market bears or communist big goverment animal control telling us how to secure our trash? /s

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Though great privacy when used offline, which is also pretty sick and the adoption levels defies reason, it's virtually usable globally both online and offline.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Bank notes have unique identifiers allowing the government to track the path of your money. Privacy is dead

[–] Pinklink@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s why I roam the streets trading bills with strangers

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 15 points 2 years ago

Chad behavior

[–] RealJoL@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That also assumes every bill you use will be immediately returned to a bank. You'd have no way of knowing where money comes from and belongs to after one hop. Just make a purchase at the supermarket to exchange a 50 for 45 and you've got anonymous cash.

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[–] jabberati@social.anoxinon.de 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

@ninjan @mod_pp Globally offline? In the US and maybe in some countries that don't have a stable currency on their own. Anywhere else you can't use it.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

American in Spain here. Everybody declines USD. Literally got coffee for free this morning because it was the only shop I've seen out of like 100 in the week I've been here that wouldn't take card.

For a charge of €2.50, when I offered $5 he opted to take nothing instead.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I understand it's easier for you just to use a card, so you don't think it's necessary, but it's probably a good idea to carry a few euros at least

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. We've tried. ATMs aren't working with our cards and every touristy exchange kiosk option charges a shitload in fees. Why not just pay with card when literally every store until our second to last day in the country has been happy to take card? Including bus stations, train stations, taxis, etc. We stopped trying about halfway in when we got to more rural areas and they still happily accepted visa. We wanted to exchange at home before the trip but found out too late that our banks require two weeks notice to exchange currency so they can get it in.

We just learned today to ask and not assume before ordering. We were asking in the beginning but got complacent after the 100th "of course" response lol.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

yeah makes sense

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You'd be hard pressed to not find an exchange shop in any major city which is were most people reside these days. And I've yet to encounter a currency exchange that doesn't take USD cash.

[–] jabberati@social.anoxinon.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@ninjan So you first have to exchange it for real currency in order to use it?

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 1 points 2 years ago

I'm just saying you can bring a duffel bag of USD with you and in just about any large city world wide you'll be fine. Some you can transact directly but most you'll need to locate an exchange first. Still the most versatile currency there is, and more universally accepted than anything else. Sure your VISA card works just about everywhere too but it's traceable to the max and there are places where USD works far better than a card.

[–] Zithero@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's funny because thia just proves the metrics used to measure a Cryptos "Viability" apparently have nothing to do with its actual value.

What matters is it's trading power... Not it's circulation or 'Supoly Cap'

[–] itsmect@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

fully agree

[–] Mordachai_Shedbacon@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why is the US printing so much money?

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Paper money is flimsy and wears down quickly. It's being constantly printed and replaced. This meme is vague and intentionally misleading. Physical money in circulation is replaced and old money destroyed. Constantly. That's what these figures are about. The wealth inequality, solid point. The rest is just vague word use to make it sound alarming.

[–] itsmect@monero.town 21 points 2 years ago

Simple answer: Because they can, because it's lucrative, and because it's not as obvious as raising taxes. Imagine you could legally print money, and when anyones asks about it, you can just dismiss it with: "I'm stimulating the economy"

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago

Got to keep the printer people in business

[–] explodicle@local106.com 1 points 2 years ago

Excuse me sir, this is clearly because of greedflation, not basic supply and demand. /s

[–] explodicle@local106.com 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Surely it's collapsed since this meme was made 10 years ago.

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

By over 30%:

Source: in2013dollars.com

Meanwhile...

$1000 would've bought 7.388 BTC in August 2013.

7.388 BTC today is worth... $193,186.08

Tell me again which one is the best place to store value?

Edit: Downvoted for showing facts. Not surprised.

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] electriccars@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

Who also owns some BTC.

[–] itsmect@monero.town 0 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Tell me again which one is the best place to store value?

I don't think you are ready to hear this yet, but it's monero :P All jokes aside, bitcoin ain't terrible, especially compared to the dollar, but I worry that botcoin's security model will crumble more with each halfing. Transaction fees are already unusable in some cases, yet they barely contribute to the miner rewards. The math doesn't seem to work out.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Hmm, perhaps both are but symptoms of the greatest scam: capitalism.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago
[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It really is one of the society of all time

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Bitcoin: 4.7% believed to be in the hands of a single person, another 3.1% in the hands of four addresses. Deflatory so no incentive to use it to make transactions. Value depends on the network effect (i.e. a pyramid scheme). Small transactions now too expensive to be realistic. 24% of the supply was created in the first year, 35% over two years. Movement of funds takes too long to be useful. Those who got in early are guaranteed to be richer than those who got in late without having made any effort...

Crypto would be great as a replacement of the stockmarket but it's fighting to be cash instead and it's doing a bad job of it because it's cash as envisioned by tech bros, not actual economists.

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