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Hold the smoke (lemmy.sdf.org)
submitted 2 years ago by MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org to c/trees@lemmy.world
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How long do you hold the smoke in your lungs? Does it change depending on what sort of mechanism for smoking you use? Do you believe in the old adage, "if you don't cough, you don't get off"? Tell me about your breathing habits when smoking.

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[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Contrary to popular opinion - inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale.

As you're exhaling vapor (or smoke I guess) your body has processed as much of what you can inhale... but then you inhale again and it'd be pretty weird to assume that whatever is left is exempt, especially if you're rebreathing in some of what you're exhaling.

But if you really want to get higher and be more efficient with your herb switch to vaporization. Heat much above 450F just completely eviscerate the molecules that are working to get us high, so the best thing you can do for your herb is to vaporize it between 360F-420F (or 445f only with high airflow convection vapes), get mid-sized inhales and rebreath them 3-4 times gently. For someone with a low tolerance this will get them noticeably more stoned from "a single hit" since you're getting ~<85% of what you would from smoking the same thing.

Bonus: vaporization is decarboxylation so you get to use the vaped herb as edibles

[–] GhostCowboy76@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have noticed a huge increase in effect and efficiency since I switched to a dry herb vape. When I make I smoke I use wayyyy more grind than I do for the vape. It’s also nice having the freedom to “adjust” my high and tailor it to what I want out of my strain for that day.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Preach it! When you're smoking weed, you're turning perfectly good THC into carcinogens and carbon monoxide. Vape for the win! It's far less harsh on the lungs!

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

came to say a shorter lazier version of this

[–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any other tips for someone with insanely high tolerance? I mainly smoke out of a volcano at 400° and e dab rig at 420°

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the only thing we can do to regulate our tolerance outside of taking a break at this stage is to wait as long into the day as you can before you start. I usually try and wait at least 2 hours after I wake up.

Concentrates can significantly raise your tolerance as well, so I'll tend to prioritize vaping and using concentrates when I need a reset/heavier oain management. Since vaping is more full spectrum it can help get you CBD compounds which can help when you feel like you're not getting stoned.

Unfortunately outside of waiting longer into the day or taking a break entirely this is about all I've got lol. But I've got over a decade of daily use coming along and I still get pretty stoned :)

[–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the response ! Makes sense. Some days I definitely try to hold off on smoking until after I finish work for the day but some days I just need it early lol. I also try and go back and forth between volcano and dabs but it has been a while since I really used my volcano. Maybe it’s time to bust it out again and go pick up some flower.

Sadly I am allergic to some flower. Touching it I can really break out so I need to wear gloves or have my girlfriend grind and pack it for me.

Yeah I think I’ve been smoking for about 15 years now. Sometimes I get high. Sometimes I just get the medicinal benefits and feel better but still sober. Always looking for ways to change it up!

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's so interesting, I wonder what your allergy to it is? Do you think it's akin to a grass allergy or something? It's fascinating that you're still able to ingest it!

[–] fraydabson@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My friend and girlfriend think it could actually be pesticides or something. It's really hit or miss if I react or not, and it's always to touching not ingesting. My friend grows his own and his never gets my allergies going. My girlfriends favorite dispensary also doesn't trigger me. Though other dispensaries where we got some "cheaper" weed my allergies get bad. It's also not just weed, I used to think I was allergic to apples but my allergy test confirmed ts not the apples. Still unsure what exactly it is though. Heck even going to an apple orchard even causes my hives to trigger.

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

That's so crazy, but I'd be inclined to agree with them. Pesticides would make sense given the inconsistency.

Well good luck to you, that's just another reason for us to keep pushing for legalization!

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Take a rip, then follow it up with an inhale to push all smoke into the lungs, then exhale. No point in holding it longer because the lungs are great at absorbing, the trick is to make sure all of the smoke makes it to the lungs.

[–] ObtuseObviously@discuss.online 9 points 2 years ago

Don't hold in smoke. That's a way to needlessly harm your lungs.

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t smoke it anymore, I just bake a (hard) cake once a month and nibble on it til it’s gone. It’s good to be able to breath again after fifteen years of daily smoking.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you have a recipe or a name I can search? "Hard cake" does not bring up anything interesting. I like edibles but am not a frequent user and would like something I can store.

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm afraid I don't really have a recipe at hand, I just make a basic cake batter off the top of my head. Something like maybe 125g flour, 100ml oat-milk, 1 egg, 100g sugar, 100g (hash-)butter, a few pinches of baking powder, a little salt. Mix it all together and bake it at 150°C until it's very, very dry. So it becomes "hard" cake. I've tried using less liquids in the batter but I've found it easier to just let the cake bake longer until it has the preferred dryness. This has the added benefit of decarboxylating the good stuff further.

Don't forget to decarboxylate your hash/weed before you use it so you maximize it's potential.

I can't speak to how long this will ultimately be edible but the last one was very dry and lasted about a month. I kept it in the fridge for most of the time but I don't know if that's really that useful. You could always just make a regular cake or any recipe you find online and freeze the result in the end. Just make sure to decarb your herbs and mix it well with the butter.

In this cake I'd typically use about 20g hash - but I'm experienced, you might want to use much, much less.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks a lot! So after baking it should be kind of like biscuits/crackers?

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, kind of. Don't expect it to taste well. But, and I cannot stress this enough, if you don't go too high on the temperatures so the good stuff evaporates you can do any recipe you like. I just found out that I don't really enjoy the taste of hashcake (with weed it's a little more tolerable for me) so I've tried to make the most potent little brick so that I don't have to eat much to get flying.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It surely tastes better than anxiety. I know any recipe works, I've done brownies, but the idea of a cake that you can keep for a month is revolutionary to me. I've tried making cannabis honey as something that's easy to consume and has long shelf life, but it had no potency.

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's true, anxiety is worse. :-D

Honey is very interesting, I did not know that was possible. You can make your own oil with somehow dissolving the weed in alcohol and that's easily shelfable - but I haven't tried that yet myself.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Honey is pretty simple, but as I said, it didn't work for me. But maybe I did something wrong: https://wayofleaf.com/cannabis-and-cbd/cannabis-honey-benefits And at that temperature, the honey loses all its nutritional values, so getting anything but the cheapest supermarket stuff would be a waste.

[–] TheQuietCroc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I vape oil and will take a puff, inhale, hold for 2 secs, then exhale.

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I saw a video once on some research that was done. Seems like anything past 10 seconds is pretty much a waste of time, with diminishing returns

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just hold it til it gets uncomfortable, not really any method. In general, not a fan of coughing, even if it makes you higher (I don't know) I'd still rather avoid it.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to do this too and hold my breath for like 45 seconds per hit. I felt really stupid after reading that it's absorbed instantly, I had been doing this for years lol

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hold my breath for like 45 seconds

Jesus fuck, dude! You were probably getting a kick from the lack of oxygen.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think I absolutely was. A little lightheadedness isn't bad though :)

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As long as feels natural.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I vary, but often I do five-second holds. Not so long that I completely asphyxiate myself, but I'm a bit skeptical of the idea that THC absorbs instantaneously the instant it enters the lungs. Takes a small amount of time, 5 seconds is plenty.