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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We should do the VoC method where every death in a capitalist country is tallied up then raised to the power of a random positive integer.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cumulative death toll estimate is about a billion. If you use black book logic, you can maybe push it up to 10 billion lol

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I forgot 💀

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Now do imperialism! I wonder how many people have died in Yemen this year, besieged by capitalist Saudi Arabia, with weapons they bought from the capitalist USA. We don't actually know the number, because our capitalist media is not interested in making it a big story.

[–] AmerikaLosesWW3@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Communism is when no foo-

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This should radicalize any neoliberal with even slightest amount of decency

[–] cmhickman358@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

-Neoliberal

-Slightest amount of decency

Pick one

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

You got the point

[–] Effort0499@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Cappie apologists are crying when faced with facts. "... but ... but ... communism killed waan hundred gigantillion people!!!"

Capitalism not only kills people but it also leaves some of them alive after robbing their brains.

[–] NaibofTabr 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

500,000 die of malaria

The largest effort to combat malaria is the World Health Organization's Strategic Advisory Group on malaria eradication. The United States is the largest single contributor to the World Health Organization, followed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the United Kingdom, Germany, and the GAVI Alliance (itself funded by the B&M G Foundation, the IFFIm, the US, UK, Norway and Germany) - which is to say that all significant work to eradicate malaria is being funded by evil capitalists.

3,000,000 die from curable disease

This one's harder to address... what is "curable"? what qualifies as "disease" under these terms? We don't know. The reference listed is #3 the Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania - like, the entire website. What specific information from that website is being used as the basis for this?

7,665,000 die of hunger

The reference is #2 the UN-Water website - again, the entire website. It's not clear where the statistic is drawn from. There is this Water, Food and Energy page, but there's nothing obvious about annual hunger-related deaths on it.

8,000,000 die from lack of clean water

The reference listed is #1 poverty.com which has an animated map with names and faces, but then says below "Note: The world hunger map display above is representational only and does not show the names and faces of real people." The site links to the World Food Program. Again, it's not clear what the number in the graphic is actually based on. The US is the top donor to WFP, so again evil capitalists.

It's interesting that the reference to the "lack of clean water" number is food related, while the "hunger" number reference is water related... perhaps the numbers/references were switched while making the graphic? perhaps the author didn't actually check their references? In any case, the references are to entire program websites and not to specific studies or reports that support the conclusions presented in the graphic.

20,000,000 easily preventable deaths annually

This broad conclusion only seems reasonable to a very elementary mindset, as it presumes that:

(1) Logistics is perfect, and all necessary supplies can be easily and effectively moved to where they need to be when they need to be. Anyone who has ever done any work in logistics knows that this is asinine.

(2) Services are perfect, and all necessary personnel (doctors, immunologists, engineers, distributors, etc) are always available and can be easily brought to where they need to be when they need to be there. Anyone who has ever done work in any kind of project coordination knows that this is asinine.

(3) "Capitalism" in its vague and nebulous form controls all world resources and is therefore responsible for distributing them - including all food, all water, and all medical supplies. Anyone with half a brain knows this is asinine.