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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 183 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

What baffles me about this whole situation is McDonald's (corporate) role in perpetuating it. It doesn't make sense as a way to squeeze money from the franchises, because the extracted rents¹ don't go to corporate; it goes to Taylor. It's a loss to the franchisee, and no benefit to McDonald's central.

This smells of graft. Someone at McDonald's corporate is getting paid off illicitly.


¹ In the political-economy sense of "rent", not the one that means "lease payment".

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Someone at McDonald's corporate is getting paid off illicitly.

By the values of Corpmurica, that executive is just acting out of rational self-interest.

Isn't our society in favor of fucking over anyone we can for individual profit? Isn't that what we're taught by example to do, lest we be considered an un-American commie?

You can bribe our politicians legally with infinite sums of money to PACs since Citizens United, you think anyone gives a shit about bribing a McDonald's executive?

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This smells of graft.

It IS graft. I've forgotten where I ran into the information but someone tracked it down. Taylors (the machine company) has an exclusive contract with McDonald's Corporate for the machines and McDonald's Corporate receives a portion of the service revenue whenever a Taylor machine is "fixed".

That's why McDonald's is fighting Kytch / helping Taylor.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Oh, so it is just screwing the franchisees.

Well, shit.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Executives who run McDonalds likely also own shares in Taylor. Just like they have a financial interest in paper straws.

[–] nous@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

There is also no loss for McDonald's central, but they have a old and close business relationship with Taylor that they seem to care about more than their own franchise owners.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, the company was taken over by a milkshake machine seller.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

What a Kroc.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey, kids! Do you want to play a game? Its called "Everyone In Any Position of Power is Corrupt!"

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I freaking hate this game, when can we play something else :(

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The game only ends when there are no remaining players who can stand or when the players have nothing left, not even the clothes on their backs.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Can you explain the rules? This game kinda sounds like it sucks.

[–] tesfabpel@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (1 children)

BTW, fixing broken machines' software (printers) was how Richard Stallman got so frustrated to invent the GPL license...

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 years ago

Imagine being the guy who wrote so buggy software that you inadvertently saddled the entire world with rms

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Superior Court of Alameda County is charging roughly $1 per page to get legal filings. To download the entirety of the court proceedings to date, the court wants $2,999.

Alright, fuck it! Lets build our own soft serve ice cream machines... with blackjack and hookers.

[–] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, and then you get fined for violating your franchise contract that requires you use these machines.

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[–] wick@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they explicitly do not want legislators to think they will "hack" them. Is this article shillin' for Taylor?

[–] NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu 18 points 2 years ago (7 children)

You probably already know but hacking originally meant to modify a machine for instance (or furniture as in ikea hacks) but it really is a word one should avoid when speaking with people who aren't part of the communities that use it in its original meaning.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

As a result of these shenanigans by Taylor and on their behalf McDonald's itself I haven't considered McDonald's a viable place to go for any kind of ice cream or ice cream-adjacent thing for many years, whereas this was once not the case. I know I'm not the only one either.

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 20 points 2 years ago

I haven't even thought about getting McDonald's ice cream in years just because it seems like they are never able to serve it so I'm not even going to try. When I want ice cream I'll go to the place that make ice cream on a cold slab.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are lucky enough to have a drive-through Baskin Robbins in this town. So my convenient ice cream choices are quite nice. But it must suck if your only option for ice cream is broken.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, I really don’t envy your options. I’d prefer pretty much any ice cream chain over BR.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not the best ice cream, but between that and McDonalds when you don't want to get out of your car, I'll pick the one with more flavor options.

We do have one other ice cream place. It's inside the lobby of a gun range. I'm not kidding.

They also had a bullshit private 'mask-free school' going on during the height of COVID, so fuck them.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That sounds like the kind of place I grew up in and eventually escaped.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

mcdonalds is somehow profiting from this, or it just wouldnt be happening.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From the article: "A DMCA exemption would allow McDonald’s franchises to legally do repair work on their own machines."

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wait, copyright can be used to prevent repairs? What is the justification? Is it a "ice cream machine company owns the copyright to mcdonalds ice cream and if you tamper with the machine you can't call it McDonald's ice cream anymore" kind of deal or is tampering straight up illegal?

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The DMCA criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself.

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[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

More likely someone at McDonalds than the company itself.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Unrelated to the topic but has anyone else noticed the quality of the soft serve has gone down dramatically in the last several years. I got a ice cream cone and it didn't even taste good. I was looking at their advert for a Mcflurry and it looked all ice crystally and not good at all. If they can't even make the picture look good that is saying something.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Healthy, Fast&Cheap, or Delicious. Pick 2.

[–] lemick24@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I think it's more like

Healthy, Fast, Cheap, Delicious

Pick 2

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Let's be honest it's pick one and another may or may not be randomly picked for you.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Cooking at home bumps that up to a 3.

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[–] Floey@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Don't have to compromise with b e a n s.

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[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

gotta go local.

I never get ice cream from fast food chains.

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I watched a youtube deep dive into this, the corruption is insane.

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