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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


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We require alternative text (from now referred to as "alt text") to be added to all posts/comments containing media, such as images, animated GIFs, videos, audio files, and custom emojis.
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That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


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That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


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The only dangerous minority is the rich.


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We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Few people talk about Marx' younger sister, Anya, who was a near world class sprinter in a time when women were discouraged from such things.

She became so famous back then for her abilities that they still say her full name at the beginning of most every competitive footrace in the world.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago

I…. Hate you….

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bourgeois is the characteristic of the middle class.

Bourgeoisie is the middle class itself.

The Aristocracy is the class that controls most governments.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

that's not the Marxist definition most leftists use

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

During the time of Marx, the bourgeoisie was keeping the proletariat down. They directly owned the means of production, since Soviet Russia did not have a stock market.

Now in the US, the bourgeoisie has become smaller and less influential. They no longer own the means of production due to selling shares.

Our oppressors are the aristocrats. They sit on the boards with majority power, giving direction without directly running the businesses.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

More like plutocrats. Aristocrats would be the nobel left after the fall of monarchies. Plutocrats are the rich corporate elite.

Or just go with the umbrella term: Oligarchs.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Fair. We still agree that our enemy is not the bourgeoisie. They’re becoming more of the proletariat every year.

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/31/the-state-of-the-american-middle-class/

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What?! The bourgeoisie is the owning class of the means of production. They exploit labour and are the primary enemy of the working classes of this world

EDIT: aristocrats are a feature of feudalism and it's remnants

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Right. And what class is running Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street and the like that sit on the board with majority ownership of every bourgeoisie run business in the US? The wealthiest people in the nation.

The bourgeoisie is being leveraged against the proletariat by the aristocrats/plutocrats through stock ownership. The bourgeoisie no longer own or control their own businesses in the US.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Frankly, I think the Professional Managerial Class is more of an impediment to progress in the US. They're content with having 25-80% more than their peers, and thus will happily unite with the petite bourgeoisie to punch downwards at any progressive reforms.

[–] expr@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The billionaires are the real problem. Targeting anyone else is just a distraction.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They are, but if you're only focused on one element, without seeing the whole picture, than any solution is temporary at best.

It's not just that billionaires are bad, their existence is a symptom of a larger broken system. And within that same broken system are millions of cogs that perpetuate and solidify the system's processes. So without addressing the Professional Managerial Class and petite bourgeoisie's complicity, the system would simply create more billionaires after enough time has passed.

To say that these other elements are "a distraction" is dismissive of larger root problems. So consider that your perspective is too narrow.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

It's not just that billionaires are bad, their existence is a symptom of a larger broken system.

Capitalism is the problem here. Billionaires (Capitalists) are not merely a symptom, they are deeply part of the root problem as they have the most power to fix things if they wanted to use their wealth for good rather than evil. I also want to point out that growing the wealth disparity with little to no regard for the damage done to society or the future is largely the entire point of capitalism.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Hmmm what about Leninism

[–] tee9000@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Facebook memes... nice.