Won't matter until they face real consequences.
politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:

- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
Being buried in legal fees is a good start.
Unlike student loans which persist through bankruptcy, most attorney fees incurred before filing bankruptcy will be treated as unsecured debt and eliminated in any consumer bankruptcy case. It's a ridiculous double standard.
Not sure where you're going with this. Student loans have a special carve out preventing them from being ejected during bankruptcy.
The solution isn't to make them everything like student loans but to remove the special carve out for student loans.
I don’t agree. In most cases the loan shouldn’t exist in the first place or should be far cheaper if they do. It’s not even a debate whether we want an educated workforce or not. It’s really just that the wealthy don’t want to pay taxes to cover the cost even though they are the main beneficiaries.
Exactly, the rich can be buried in legal fees and then can get out of it by declaring bankruptcy, meanwhile people who legitimately can't make ends meet due to being buried in student loans have no way to get out from it. Rudy's already selling his apartment in NYC for 6 million and one can guess the money from that sale will be protected if he declares bankruptcy.
Nope.
His primary residency would be protected in bankruptcy.
Selling it turns it into liquid assets.
I’m guessing his attorneys are not accepting IOUs.
Now that they are in big boy court, the lawyers are charging massive upfront retainers.
I think Trump's was a couple million.
Not entirely convinced by this specific example - he lost the civil case by default because [people think] responding to discovery might reveal things that he doesn't want the criminal case to know about.
Deliberately incurring a fine in one case to try and avoid jail in another is a bit different than not being able to mount a defense.
While I didn't read this piece, I have read several on this story over the past few days, and this was my takeaway as well.
For the amounts in question, this seems like a calculated move with an eye on the more serious trial.
Yeah. They know what they're doing. They've played the game their entire lives. The gullable low tier lackies might be different though.
Yeah, I feel like so much of Trump's 4 indictments now will come down to the loyalty of the others indicted.
If they finally wake up and smell the coffee, realize that he only cares about himself, and that their loyalty gets them nothing from him, and they agree to cooperate with prosecutors, that's best case for them and the state/US, and the American people.
The time for cooperation has ended, as far as the prosecution is concerned. None of the indicted co-conspirators are being offered the option to rat.
This strongly suggests the prosecution feels their case is already ironclad against those indicted. Since they have devices with private messages on them, ratting someone out may be completely unnecessary.
As always, friendly reminder that if you're going to commit crimes, do not text, mail, email, or otherwise put down in writing that you are knowingly committing crimes.
Any prosecutor worth their salt will see this move and immediately move to ammend their discovery motion for whatever the civil trial would've asked for, too, for the exact reason you listed.
Turns out the MAGA firehose of bullshit goes appropriately limp and useless in court.