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In July, Buma sent the Senate Judiciary Committee a 22-page statement full of eye-popping allegations, and the document leaked and was first reported last month by Insider (after a conservative blogger had posted it online). According to Buma’s account, Giuliani was used as an asset by a Ukrainian oligarch tied to Russian intelligence and other Russian operatives for a disinformation operation that aimed to discredit Joe Biden and boost Trump in the 2020 presidential race. Moreover, Buma says he was the target of retaliation within the bureau for digging into this.

Buma’s statement highlights Giuliani’s relationship with Pavel Fuks, a wealthy Ukrainian developer, who in 2017 hired Giuliani and paid him $300,000. Fuks once told the New York Times that he had retained Giuliani to lobby in the United States for the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, where Fuks then lived. Giuliani has denied that he was paid to lobby for Kharkiv, insisting he only provided advice regarding security to the city. And Fuks has changed his tune. Through a spokesperson, he told Mother Jones that Giuliani’s work was limited to advising the city.

In his statement, Buma says that the FBI assessed Fuks to be a “co-opted asset” of Russian intelligence services, meaning a person who Russian intelligence used to advance its goals. Buma’s complaint does not name a specific Russian intelligence agency, but a person who spoke to agents involved in this investigation says that the FBI believes Fuks worked for the FSB, the successor to KGB. All this raises the possibility that Giuliani, a former Republican presidential candidate who became a close adviser to Trump, received a large payment directly from a Russian asset.

Buma alleges that Fuks has carried out various tasks for Russian spies, including laundering money for them. Fuks also reportedly paid locals to spray-paint swastikas around Kharkiv in the weeks before Russia’s invasion. Buma says Fuks did so to bolster Vladmir Putin’s claim that the invasion aimed to achieve the “de-Nazification of Ukraine.”

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[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 113 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice to get some high level confirmation but this doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone who’s been paying close attention to Ghouliani for the last 10-20 years. Dude has always been corrupt and doing the bidding of one mobster or another.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It was not one mobster or another. He made his name prosecuting the Italian mob so that the Russians could move into NYC.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 88 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Lol. The entire Republican Party is on the Russian payroll, even if they don’t know it.

[–] Slwh47696@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (21 children)

I would be much more surprised if Trump and Co. weren't all Russian assets

Pretty wild how all these Republicans hated Russia more than anything else up until the last few years, and now they suddenly love Russia

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Remember when the Democratic Party's emails were hacked and it was all over the news? Remember when the same thing happened to the Republic Party emails? Except that there was much less press attention...

I wonder why so many Republicans are publicly pro Russia now.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Member when don Jr just said we get all the money we need from Russia?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Pretty wild how all these Republicans hated Russia more than anything else up until the last few years, and now they suddenly love Russia

They hated specifically the Soviet Union, and did so because it was communist. Now that it's gone and Russia is a kleptocratic oligarchy instead, they love it. Republicans admire Russia because it is everything they want the US to be.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 80 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Trump and Giuliani are the high watermark tests. If they don’t spend the rest of their lives in prison cells for committing treason at the highest levels, that’s a clear cut signal that certain people can get away with anything, and that American justice has failed.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“certain rich people” or just “rich people”?

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is one thing rich people never get away with, and that's stealing from other rich people.

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 55 points 2 years ago (4 children)

before Rudi was mayor, he was helping clean up the Italian mafia in NYC.. the Russian mafia filled a bunch of the vacuum left behind, and Rudi and the Russians have been friends ever since for some reason..

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It had been reported that the Russian mafia were feeding information to Giuliani on the Italian mob. It was how Guiliani was able to make his cases, build his reputation to become "America's mayor", AND also compromised him to become a Russian asset. The story was reported a long while ago, and I don't remember which journalist(s) broke the story or who they wrote for, nor their reliability, anymore, but recall them as very highly rated as accurate in their facts.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Appreciate that but gonna need some facts to support that one. If nobody is reporting it (other than you) then it is hard to believe, as much as I would like to.

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[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow. He was considered courageous for this at the time. TIL.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suspect this is exactly what's going on.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

you know what they used to say in those days? they said "follow da money".. lol

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow. Compromising giuliani must have been hard. I mean you need a bottle of vodka and a girl. Where are you going to find that?

Borat compromised him FFS

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Well Borat was with Scotch, so it is a little more expensive than what you describe.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can't wait to find out that Trump and all his co-conspirators were all involved in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. I just have this feeling that they have been involved in planning the whole thing all along, and the plan was for Trump to win a second term so he could allow it to happen or even deploy our military to help Russia. He was literally impeached for extorting Zelenakyy and refusing to send him military aid.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Shitcunt traitor republican. Like 99% of them.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In a headline that isn't surprising, I find the most suprsing-thats-not-suprising thing is...

paid locals to spray-paint swastikas around Kharkiv in the weeks before Russia’s invasion. Buma says Fuks did so to bolster Vladmir Putin’s claim that the invasion aimed to achieve the “de-Nazification of Ukraine.”

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Remember when little donnie, the lying liars networks, the Republicans, the "centrists", a whole lot of the "liberal media" (lol) and even some supposed leftists were gaslighting and proclaiming that the Russia thing was a "hoax"?

How long will they keep that up, by the way?

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Is this suprising to anyone? Its clear as day a lot of the GOP is compromised by Russian interests.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

Back in the 80s. Rudy cleared out the American mob to make way for his Russian mob associates.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Rudy Colludy

[–] LiquidMastering@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What city in a foreign country would hire Ghouliani to provide ideas for “updating security”? That seems like the dumbest excuse for a payoff ever.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They were opening up Ukraine for invasion? It kind of loosely fits in a really shitty way.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I’m so shocked because most republicans are so law abiding and definitely not involved with like 50 felonies!

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Literally nobody is surprised about this after the Trump presidency. And people who know a little more seem to think he cleaned out the Italian mob only to hand NYC over to the Russian Mafia. Hmmm.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

America's mayor and Russia's puppet.

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's always amazing the greed of this group. I could never afford it, but 300k seems like fucking nothing, to either party. So why do it? Tell them to add a couple zeros, do the bare minimum and disappear into obscurity. The absolute narcissism with this lot, incredible.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

considering how broke Giuliani seems to be right now 300K probably made a lot of sense at the time

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[–] athos77@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

It's been how long since he deliberately took on the Italian mob in New York so that the Russian mob could take over, and they're just discovering his connections now? Pathetic.

[–] Fhek@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Giuliani is a Russian stooge. What a surprise.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Now do Trump.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This explains why little donnie's goons want to dismantle the government if they are permitted back into office. People like donnie's goons will be able to get away with stuff like this with zero free reign for the "deep state" (lol) to have any independent investigation, whistleblowing, etc...

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

What a surprise! Said no one with a brain

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