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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

"new" study, draws half it's methodology from referencing older papers, including the problematic poore-nemecek 2018 piece.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Except it's not because the industry is not going to reduce its production and instead of being used it will just be thrown away at the store. They would require a significant chunk of the population to get on board with this to such a degree that it forced them to reduce production which will literally never happen there's other more realistic things we can be doing

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, it will increase the production costs and reduce the profitability of meat products.

Going vegan is the best thing you can do for the environment as an individual. As animal agriculture causes at least 14.5% of emissions, uses up 75% more land and wastes ungodly amounts of water.

A whole foods plant-based will reduce your risk from chronic diseases and lengthen your life expectancy.

Do the 30 day vegan challenge and do better for yourself and the environment:

https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/take-vegan-pledge

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you missed the part of my message where I said it wasn't realistic. You are correct that if we could convince a large portion of the population to switch it would reduce profits and ultimately cause the industry to scale down. The entire point of my message was that that's not going to happen no matter how much you talk about how good it is no matter how many facts you give you are simply not going to get a majority of the population to give up or even meaningfully reduce their meat consumption.

So instead of wasting your time spending your wheels on something that will never happen you could be doing something more productive that actually has a chance of succeeding.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago

A bunch of rubbish veganism is growing all around the world and yet you’re here arrogantly saying that things won’t change because you think you somehow know everything.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

As long as billionaires are allowed to run around and do what ever the fuck they want I will continue eating meat and not giving a fuck about recycling.

As long as billionaires have zero consequences then I will have zero sacrifices.

Fuck you all as long as you let billionaires destroy the earth while the poors take the hit.

Nah fuck all that shit.

If you want me to stop eating meat then fucking make me.

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Why don't we start by making private planes illegal instead? That amount of pollution to just move around a couple of rich assholes is insane.

Also, let's force the industry to repair and upgrade all their infrastructure to apply more recent carbon filters. That way, we could block a "very" big chuck of the problem at his source.

But no... Let's keep taking away things from the middle classes instead. After all, who needs meat, bugs are way cheaper, right?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

instead

We're not doing either, because both the animal agriculture and private airline industry exist to benefit our liege lords

You'll be eating the bugs (and liking it) soon enough. Just have to find the profit motive

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