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[–] drislands@lemmy.world 98 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Officials said he refused to step off the vessel and threatened to kill himself. He also claimed that he had a bomb on board, according to court papers.

Oh so he's not a cool weirdo, he's a terrible weirdo. Damn.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Have you kept up on Florida lately? Doesn't sound too insane to me.

I mean, that sounds kinda like a desperate persons attempts to keep other people off his "boat".

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sorry! I thought this was AMERICA!?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Stop arresting him and he becomes Europes problem.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They think they're all coming in boats? WRONG! Hamster wheels, son!

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[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He's never making it to Europe in that.

[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think he would make it to Europe. It looks sturdy

[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's surely sturdy, but it also looks like a death trap in a storm. But mostly it looks like he never came up with a solution to his drifting-backwards-faster-than-he-can-paddle-forwards problem that plagued his previous attempts. It's got so much sail area and so little control surface that even a little wind will blow him around.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

He should come to the UK and then cross from England to France. That would actually be a reasonable crossing and he'd probably be allowed to do it provided he got prior permission, but the Atlantic, nah.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What is the legal justification for this?

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't understand it either.. He's obviously nuts, but that's his life and he should be able to choose to do what he wishes to. Doesn't matter on law. Most of the laws is just jurisdictional bullshit anyway. You don't need to have laws to know what's good or bad. Every decent moral ethic human being knows what's good or bad.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Except for humans who are mentally unwell and might cause damage to others or their property which is why detaining mentally unwell people and getting them help before they can hurt themselves is important.

Would you let a child crawl into a washing machine?

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[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The part where upon being stopped by the Coast Guard - he threatened to kill himself and that he had a bomb. Also his device is not seaworthy and they would be dispatched to find him anyway when he dissapears because that's what they have to do.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't know you needed to have a seaworthy device to sail on open waters.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hazard to other traffic. If you cant steer, dont have lights, dont have a radio, and dont have a beacon or radar reflector, you're being a pain in the ass for everyone else on the high seas.

Just like how a car needs to have a minimum standard of roadworthiness to drive on public roads

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[–] Spikke@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“He is now facing federal charges of obstruction of a boarding, and violation of a Captain of the Port order.”

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

If you asked me to make up naval-related criminal charges while I was drunk, this is the sort of shit I would come up with.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Imagine being so fed up with living in Florida that the only way you can think to leave is by a giant hamster wheel

[–] ashgillman@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 2 years ago

The guy made it 110km?! I mean, I'm still pretty impressed

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How dumb, if the dude wants to use a poorly made vessel to try to cross the atlantic, let him.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Only if he signs a waiver so that the Coasties don't have to intervene.

Kill yourself however you want, just don't waste our money and time.

[–] Sendbeer@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would agree...except look at all the resources that were wasted trying to recover survivors from the Oceangate implosion.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The world acted like those rich fucks brought their treasure down with them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago

Everyone's entitled to a rescue mission should they need it, even if they do put themselves in danger. That's the agreement, that's what the coast guard are for. Of course you'll probably get arrested at the end of it for wasting everyone's time but you'll live.

In fairness to them they didn't know they were putting themselves in danger they just didn't do their due diligence, and anyway one of them was a kid.

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[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 30 points 2 years ago

Why arrest the guy if he wants to drowned in a hamster wheel in the ocean that's on him

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's trying to "raise money for the Coast Guard."

So does he just hand the check directly to the Guardsman in the Coast Guard vessel when they're forced to drag his yoga ball wheel out of the ocean for a 4th time?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, do they even take donations?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Like with other branches of the armed services, there are charities for vets and their families.

But if you want to give to the guard more directly, the US government has a program that collects once a year before April 15th. HR Block will happily help you give.

[–] Taalen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Anything to get out of Florida

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Florida man attempting to upgrade to Englishman

[–] supercriticalcheese@feddit.it 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not an expert in maritime law, or any law for that matter, but why they had to help him?

If he wanted to be in danger he succeeded, provided he doesn't request the coastal guard for assistance he is not hurting anything but himself. Is It because his hamster wheel might have been a hazard to other boats?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Article 98 UNCLOS, "Duty to render assistance":

  1. Every State shall require the master of a ship flying its flag, in so far as he can do so without serious danger to the ship, the crew or the passengers:

a. to render assistance to any person found at sea in danger of being lost;
b. to proceed with all possible speed to the rescue of persons in distress, if informed of their need of assistance, in so far as such action may reasonably be expected of him;
c. after a collision, to render assistance to the other ship, its crew and its passengers and, where possible, to inform the other ship of the name of his own ship, its port of registry and the nearest port at which it will call.

  1. Every coastal State shall promote the establishment, operation and maintenance of an adequate and effective search and rescue service regarding safety on and over the sea and, where circumstances so require, by way of mutual regional arrangements cooperate with neighbouring States for this purpose.
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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A Florida man was arrested after trying to "run to London" across the Atlantic Ocean in a homemade vessel resembling a hamster wheel.

The US Coast Guard intercepted Reza Baluchi about 70 miles (110km) off Tybee Island, Georgia on 26 August.

"Based on the condition of the vessel - which was afloat as a result of wiring and buoys - [US Coast Guard] officers determined Baluchi was conducting a manifestly unsafe voyage," the criminal complaint says.

On 1 September, he eventually surrendered and abandoned his vessel after being brought to a Coast Guard base in Miami.

In 2021, he was arrested after being rescued while trying to ride from Florida to New York after drifting 30 miles south of his departure point.

According to previous interviews, Mr Baluchi said he was attempting the voyages to raise money for a variety of causes, including for the homeless and the Coast Guard.


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[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

he was arrested after being rescued while trying to ride from Florida to New York after drifting 30 miles south of his departure point

How do we know education is failing in Florida?

New York is north of Florida, not south.

[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Right. And since he was heading north but drifting south the effort failed. Were you schooled in Florida?

[–] oldbean@dmv.social 9 points 2 years ago

He has a Wikipedia page. Reza Baluchi

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago

At this point, the guy should have already gathered some support to help him make the cross.

Crazier things have been done.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Instead of raising money for the coast guard he could just... not waste their time needing rescued.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

They are going about this all wrong. They need to HIRE this guy.

He won't need to flee the continent if he's gainfully employed.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What would florida man's super power be?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
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