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The fantasy-story of right-wing anarchy is creating misinformation, someone thinks that something like "anarcho-capitalism" is real philosophy, instead of the linguistic distortion of fascist-capitalism that it is.

Should people even specify that they are left-wing anarchists now? Do we really want to put a stop to this propagandistic joke? Anarchy will always be the extreme left into the political pendulum.

And I will tell you more: anarchism is by its nature also pacifism, as it aims to prevent any form of uncontrolled power on others. This is to silence even centrists: another fake group, people who think that it's not "extremist" in its own abstinence, in delegating violence.

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[–] Mikhail_Bakunin@szmer.info 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And I will tell you more: anarchism is by its nature also pacifism, as it aims to prevent any form of uncontrolled power on others.

If by pacifism you mean a peaceful society I agree, however if you are talking about achiving said society with no violent means whatsoever I must say that it seems like a nice utopian vison but not a practical one.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Paris Commune was well designed principle. Failed to have sufficient security, because external assholes wanted it destroyed.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 20 points 4 months ago

Even the Nazi party had "socialist" in their name...

I started defining words and meanings whenever I am talking on the subject. It is annoying but otherwise whenever you mention anarchism people imagine indiscriminate bombings.

[–] keepthepace@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 months ago

Then stop reading about them?

I mean, look at what the conservatives call communism, wokeness, socialism, censorship... You really don't want to take their definitions seriously. You can't if you want to talk seriously about these matters.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah nothing says “my political views comes only from nothing but podcasts and YouTube videos but I consider myself well read and super informed” like people who try to liken anarchism with any form of right wing ideology.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Anarcho Capitalism is an astro turfing funded (Kochs in early 2000-2010s) movement to support low taxes. Monopoly on violence replaced with mafias. NAP is recipe for war/violence more than peace.

That said, mainstream leftist anarchism is extremely dogmatic in regards to feminist/queer supremacy/purity, and purity tests for "freedom lovers".

There are centrist paths to anarchy, minarchy, and government disempowerment. UBI is the obvious personal freedom that can replace all government except for IRS. Market anarchism, socialist libertarianism is inclusive of UBI/freedom dividends, in that fair markets can be promoted, and poverty eliminated. Centrist anarchy/UBI has no "freeloader problem".

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I prefer ancap as a term to avoid acknowledging any affinity with real anarchism.

That said, I don’t think they’re necessarily all fascists and there are some points of agreement between us so I’m not afraid to cooperate in limited ways when it’s appropriate. Right now there are worse enemies to reckon with.

[–] Donk@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago

i've never seen an ancap who doesn't want to be king of his own however-small kingdom, and most are straight up frustrated warlords. be very careful

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I understand what you say and I agree. Still I would like to add something:

I have noticed that in the english speaking world when people talk about the left they often include anarchy in this term. For me, this is highly problematic too, since the left has hierarchical structures and anarchy has horizontal ones.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"The left" is nebulous but it usually means "trending towards socialism". As anarchism is a socialist movement, it makes sense.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

I am not denying there is a historical reference to the use of this term. I just think it also makes sense - especially if we take into consideration the last 100 years or so - for this term to shift from its initial meaning. Or to put it differently, in other languages this shift has taken place for decades now.

[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"The left" is relative to the political scenario, for example in the States we can see a big right-wing advantage so even liberists are left for them, while in the historical scenario they aren't. Hierarchy is still contemplated in the left but more you go on that and less hierarchy you have in a proportional gradualism.

[–] cqst@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago

The term leftist is considered to come from the fact that people sitting on the "Left" in the Estates General in France. Generally, liberals, (Jacobins, Third Estate). There is very poor sourcing for this online, but Wikipedia cites some untranslated difficult to source french book.

In mainstream discourse, "left" takes on a number of meanings, but to the extent that left is meant to mean anti-capitalist, and/or, Marxist, anarchism has left wing currents, hence, left wing anarchism.

[–] cqst@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 months ago

There are definitely "right-wing" anarchist currents that are popular and not as unhinged as how "anarcho-capitalism" is generally characterized, as in, anarchism that espouses the use of capitalism, but I have not really seen any genuinely "socially conservative", anarchists. Pacifism is reactionary and emboldens the status quo.