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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 146 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How the FUCK is that shocking to anyone? Conservatives always side with fascists when it becomes expedient to do so.

Only exception to the rule was the Italian monarchists a century ago and even they pretended that they'd never opposed Mussolini the moment they lost the civil war.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because the far right party exists since 2016 and each try to get too close to them resulted in failure.

So, it's shocking to see someone try it again.

Most prominent case of the past: The Kemmerich government in Thüringen who accepted votes from that party. Kemmerich had to resign a few days later.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 99 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's called doubling down and it's not just happening in Germany.

The COALition in Australia has just compared the First Nations People who have lived in Australia for over 65,000 years with Aliens.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-26/liberal-sussan-ley-first-fleet-elon-musk-australia-day/104860982

It's not the first time they've shown their #racist colours either.

The "leader" of the COALition has refused to stand in front of a First Nations flag:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/peter-dutton-faces-mounting-criticism-over-inflammatory-indigenous-flags-remark/9ve4afxtm

So has the "leader" of the COALition in Western Australia:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-17/wa-liberal-leader-libby-mettam-aboriginal-flag/104829360

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 76 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm only shocked it took this long for the same shitty people to make the same shitty choices they did 100 years ago.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 months ago

If they actually form a coalition, I promise to call it the "Hindenburg coalition".

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 months ago

Relaaaax guys. He said only if he is suggesting policies that are in line with AfD interests... Uh, wait...

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

Man it's almost like Nazism was a religous conservative extremist movement.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

Just in time before the election, and not after.

[–] viking 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They didn't quite get it right:

  1. The perpetrator was not due to be deported, he withdrew his request for asylum and pledged to leave on his own accord.

  2. Merz didn't agree to start a coalition with the AfD, they merely agree on a key point (which is increased number of deportations for criminal immigrants).

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. I think there is a real danger that Merz will turn that into a coalition later and my personal opinion of him is that he is a particularly nasty example of a morally bankrupt piece of shit (and always has been). But let's stick to the facts. This is neither a cooperation nor a coalition, yet.

[–] viking 4 points 4 months ago

Agree, he's a major dick who can't be trusted. Same as cum-ex Olaf. We just don't have any useful politicians with a semblance of backbone in Germany. Unfortunately the same is true for most of Europe.

[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He won't, at least not this year. There are still too many people in the CDU who'd be up in arms against a coalition or any other form of formal cooperation with the AfD, and many of the CDU's voters are in the same boat. Not necessarily a majority in either case, but a big enough minority to kill any hopes of stable government or of winning an election with the party and electorate split.

Merz knows that. He's an asshole, not stupid.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I sure hope you're assessment of the CDU is right, but honestly I wouldn't bet on it. If you look at how quickly things in the US go down the drain, implementing fascism and destroying basic human rights at a speed that would have been unthinkable just a few months ago, I'd be very, very sceptical about the CDUs promises regarding their so-called "Brandmauer" (Firewall) against the extreme right.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you still sure he's not an asshole AND stupid at the same time? He tried the same trick twice and failed miserably. Now he's being mocked by the afd and this dumb and reckless maneuver has probably cost his party quite a lot of votes (and most of those unfortunately will go to the afd).

[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

Nope. I overestimated him.

Doesn't mean that his party would go for an AfD coalition though. He hasn't even managed to get them to vote to pass a law with the AfD.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago
[–] mapto@masto.bg 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@avidamoeba I was expecting CSU (the Bavarian sister party which is much more hard-line) to be the first ones, but CDU beat them to it

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

somebody tell them it's not a race (pun intended)

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Indeed it is more mental than physical. It requires concentration

[–] mapto@masto.bg 2 points 4 months ago

@lurch they thrive on the same fears as AfD, at least CSU does.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago

Why would anybody be "shocked" that a state supporting genocide is also supporting fascism?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

Their party was founded by and still worships Konrad f'ing Adenauer, what did people expect?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Its only a "surprise" because they all pretend cooperating with Israelis is not already cooperating with the far right.

[–] Valeria@feddit.kyiv.ua 1 points 4 months ago

History repeats itself.