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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 158 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Imagine all of this talent going to work for grapheneOS and/or hardware company willing to make a phone with grapheneOS as its OS.

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 102 points 4 months ago (14 children)

I'd rather see phones with Ubuntu Touch, PostMarketOS, and Mobian OS's.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Same, I'm really tired of the annoying Android logic. I wish we could have a logical OS where we could manage our files properly instead of the filesystem mess we currently have with stuff all over the place.

It didn't matter when the phones just had a few megs of storage, but you can carry some serious data on those things nowadays.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That was one thing that was wild about the Palm WebOS devices. It was just plain old linux. Games? They were just Linux games using SDL. Porting WebOS applications to desktop linux would have been nearly trivial. It would have just been amazing if Palm had pulled it off (alas, they chased a single design, Blackberry-style with small form factor, which missed just so much of the market). The users were utterly oblivious to all this (which is good) and it was just the best combination of capable of great things easily with a power user and able to run whatever the casual user would have needed.

It was still before Android was pretty much a sealed deal in the market (2009 Android was still horribly rough) so it had a shot, but Palm just couldn't pull it off.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 19 points 4 months ago

i will second this too!

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does grapheneOS have paid devs or is it all volunteer work? And if they do pay devs, how do they get the money to pay them?

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lead dev accepts donations for the project (username "thestinger" on github)

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

Not only that, but they apparently also get large amounts of donations in crypto currencies. They also allow donating via PayPal or bank transfer. They set up a whole Canadian non-profit foundation in 2023. GrapheneOS isn't a small niche project anymore, it's actually a sizable organization with paid staff (see https://grapheneos.org/hiring). @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 116 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I really should switch to Graphene

[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Can I install my bank app on it yet? I remember having problems with attestation in the past.

What about full application backups? I've got a few offline apps, I'd like to transfer the data to/from. However, I thought grapheneOS needed the application developer to "approved" this backup/restore method - or you needed root (which invalidated attestation)... I don't recall which it was (but I really miss titanium backup).

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 7 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Which banking app? I can try to install and launch it, tho I probably won't ask for your login to test that, haha

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[–] franklin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

here is a list of compatible banking apps, however the list is crowd sourced so trust but verify.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 65 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Last year, the teams responsible for Pixel hardware and Android software were merged into one division, and Google today announced a “voluntary exit program” for employees working in the Platforms & Devices group.

At least there's some plausible reasoning for this, instead of blanket headcount reduction to pad profits. Reasoning doesn't change much of course.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's still just an excuse to pad profits.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago
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[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

Did they title the offer "Fork in the Road," too?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 35 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I don't work for Google. I'm but a voluntary ~~product~~ customer. But if they could offer me a way to get away from them, I'd gladly take it.

Right now I'm moving my personal domain over to cloudflare and email to mxroute. Considering setting up some calendar and similar groupware stuff on kubernetes on Oracles free tier as well.

That's the other rub...if I want to cloud host anything, I get to choose between Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and Alibaba. Wonderful selection we have there.

(I recognize there are smaller players out there like linode and ovh and a trillion VPS providers...only reason I'm considering Oracle is because they give so much free "forever". And kubernetes is fun for me in like a jigsaw kind of way. Not like the puzzle but the guy from Saw)

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for being harsh, but if you use the "free "forever"" offering of any company as alternative to what google offers you learnt nothing from using google.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think free cloud compute offerings are a bit different. Different motivations. They aren't trying to harvest your data, they are trying to advertise their product.

They want sysadmins to play around and convince their bosses to buy in on Oracle. They want web devs to build demos and get their clients to host there. They want companies to get their feet wet risk free, before spending tens of thousands of dollars migrating existing workloads to them.

Harvesting data from those customers would be a scandal, and have massive negative repercussions.

And honestly, even with the announcement of Stargate and Oracle being a partner, I'd probably rather give them a couple dollars a month to run a couple small buckets than to give it to Amazon.

I can't self host at home because no incoming IP. Unless I want to switch to my only other option, Xfinity. Which I don't.

And...let's face it...if the government wants to find me, they are going to find me. It doesn't matter if my Bluesky PDS or my kids Minecraft server is hosted at home or up there. It's tied to me either way.

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Forever is only forever until profit margins get tight or they have a bad enough fiscal quarter...

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I replaced most cloud services with my own Nextcloud instance. I like Nextcloud.

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I have two free forever servers, they are alright, but they route weird. When I'm in China they go from Beijing to Japan and then to Korea causing packet loss and delays

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've seen enough traps set by Oracle to be extra afraid of any wooden horses they are offering up.

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[–] wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Have you considered voluntary redundancy?

No.

Have you considered involuntary redundancy?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can Sundar Pichai please take the offer?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And Prabhakar Raghavan aka worsener of search

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Fuck is Pixel going to go away? Apparently the pixel 9 sold well

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The Pixel 9 Pro is incredible. Writing this on it right now. I love it. Previously had the 6. I'll be sad if they go away, for real.

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[–] designated_fridge@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they just want to downsize cause there isn't as much to do nowadays when the OS is so mature?

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not the way to do that. This is a way to get rid of your best people because, as the United States government is about to find out, when you offer a voluntary exit to people with a severance package the ones who know they have ability and are competent will take that package and leave and get better jobs. And the ones that know they suck or are too lazy are going to stay. There's actually a list somewhere of companies that have done this and have gone under because of it.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So you're being "voluntary" fired? You can't quit when you want?

[–] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

You don’t get severance when you quit.

Severance is usually worse if you wait to get fired rather than taking a voluntary exit.

If you aren’t happy at a job, taking an offered exit is often a good decision.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 4 months ago

Is that where they put a loaded gun on the table and then turn around?

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I hope they join Mozilla 😏

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago

Ah yes, we need more laid off tech workers in the sector. We nearly don't have enough!

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