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DNC to elect new chair as party grapples with how to rebuild after 2024 losses (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 5 months ago by homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world
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Now's Your Chance!

Everyone who knows what the Democrats need to do - get thee hence!

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 104 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Here's a hint:

When Harris was out giving speeches heavy on economic populism, polls consistently showed her in the lead.

When, at the behest of the donor class and their stooges in the DNC, she switched away from populism and to standard, vacuous neo-liberalism, that lead vanished, never to return.

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There's an important question though. Does the DNC actually want to win?

I honestly don't think they do. I think they've found a comfortable and profitable role as the controlled opposition, all of this hand-wringing is just for show, and what they're in fact going to do is just install another bunch of neo-liberal establishment hacks and go right back to their standard tactics of condemning the republicans while making excuses for failing to actually do anything about them, and promising that if only we give them more money, they'll surely stand up for us after the next election.

I'd love for them to prove me wrong. I would've loved that anyway, but it's especially significant now, because the US is circling the bowl, and the time for meaningfully promising anything is rapidly running out. This isn't just a moment when the DNC needs to step up to reclaim some integrity - they need to step up to do their part to save the US from the destruction the Trumpists are hellbent on bringing.

Will they?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you, they seem to really like being the underdogs and it seems to work out well for them from a fundraising perspective. It definitely feels like they're angling to just barely lose.

I hope they eventually prove me wrong too, but it does feel like when they do well enough to win it's mostly an unfortunate accident in their eyes.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I too would LOVE to be proven wrong but it is seems unlikely.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Does the DNC actually want to win? I honestly don't think they do.

Yes. They do.

It's not a super-duper-double-twist-psyop-gotcha-infinity-plus-one "controlled opposition". That's just on tv. In real life, it turns out to be really hard to get people out to the polls on election day. And the champions of evil have been working that point down to the ground for decades.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In real life, it turns out to be really hard to get people out to the polls on election day.

When you've pissed away all your credibility, it is.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh you sweet summer child.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

This dude used to post memes claiming Biden was the most progressive canidate since FDR, you can ignore every time they praise the DNC.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BE PROGRESSIVE AND DONT FUCK WITH A PRIMARY

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Like - DO GOOD WORK ?

I dunno, it seems like it should be more . . y'know. Specific. The first part anyway. "Don't fuck with a primary" is pretty self-explanatory, but there are things the DNC has to do to run a primary, so we should probably get specifics for that too.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The first part anyway. “Don’t fuck with a primary” is pretty self-explanatory, but there are things the DNC has to do to run a primary, so we should probably get specifics for that too.

This assumes they'll be running primaries at all.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 45 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Have they thought about electing a human being instead of a chair? 🤔

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Furniture would be an improvement.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately all discussions have been tabled.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

This just reminds me of how Clint Eastwood talked to "Obama" via an empty chair.

I think the empty chair would be an improvement at this point.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Haha, I'll see you all in 2028 after 4 years of no change and primary rigging again.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you're in there, fighting for your changes?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Things remain as you like them, but now it's mlg's fault for not singlehandedly fixing it.

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

IMO Hakeem Jeffries should also be replaced as minority leader / speaker. He’s about as exciting as a wet dish rag. Great that he’s on message but it’s so transparently measured and calculated. Exactly why Pelosi groomed him to take over, I’m guessing. Just an absolute milk sandwich of a man.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Fair, but we're talking about the DNC itself, not the House leadership. Anyone know anything about anyone on the "short list"?

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I’ve always found the way he speaks confusing. Does he have a disability that I’m not aware of?

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People want change, people voted for change, as terrible of a change it is. That's it, you don't have to think further than that. Preserving the status quo at all costs is what got them in this situation...

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Agreed.

However. That's a little to vague. You'll need to specify a little more there.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When the Democrats prove that they exist to force the poors down as wealth inequality increases, then the poors won't see their lives improve under democratic leadership.

We need a leftist party

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, good luck with that.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good luck with making excuses for why nothing should improve or change

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Uh, . . . good luck accusing people of things they didn’t do?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hear that overturned police cars can be "built" into effective barricades.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So . . you're for the DNC . . overturning police cars.

Sure, why not. Someone write that down.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 5 months ago

I didn't specify the DNC, but sure.

[–] ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the dnc should just pay trump to run as a dem in 2028

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is genius had it been 2016, but now his price is in the 10s of billions.

[–] ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

accounted for with step 3 thank you for your input

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Go on the fucking attack. Call out every Republican bullshit comment and flat out call them liars and embarass them in front of anyone they can.

Follow it up with lobbing accusations of their on non-stop

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Yes, but make sure they know their job. It is to select candidates, without a primary, and make sure those candidates hold fundraising events for the elite class and do nothing for the low and working class. 🤦‍♂️