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    [–] gi1242@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    I used Gentoo for 3y. in hindsight I wasted so many CPU cycles just because I thought --march=native would make things faster.

    nope.

    you know what made things faster? switching to arch πŸ˜‚

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    When CPUs were a lot slower you could genuinely get noticeable performance improvements by compiling packages yourself, but nowadays the overhead from running pre-compiled binaries is negligible.

    Hell, even Gentoo optionally offers binary packages now.

    [–] Im_old@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, I tried it around 2002/2003, back when the recommended way was from stage1. I think I had a P4 with HT. It was noticeably faster than redhat or mandrake (yes, I was distro hopping a lot). Emerge gnome-mono was a night run. Openoffice about 24hrs.

    Lots of wasted time but I did learn how to setup some things manually.

    [–] gi1242@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    once there was a bug with dependencies of transcode and some other package (mplayer I think). it would ask to downgrade one and upgrade the other. then several hours of compiling later it would agree to upgrade both. then several more hours of compiling later it would again want to downgrade one again

    I think there was a groove worn in my hard drive from this

    [–] Im_old@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    Oh yeah, I remember those. My solution was to not emerge anything for 24 hours, by the next day usually they fixed the issue.

    [–] gi1242@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    so even after 24h compiling ur not done! u need to dispatch-config through so many config files...

    [–] satellaview@shark.community 1 points 10 months ago

    @atmur i had no clue they were doing that, very interesting

    [–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 8 points 10 months ago

    I did jump onto Gentoo ship chasing performance, but stayed because of USE flags.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

    You know what was even faster? Switching to something easier like Fedora/Linux mint/Debian

    [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    "Tell me one last thing", said Harry. β€œdid i install Open BSD for real? Or has this business, the dual boot failure , both computers damaged, the sharks, all been happening inside my head?”

    Dumbledore chortled at him, and his voice sounded loud and strong in Harry’s ears even though the bright ocean mist was descending again, obscuring his figure.

    β€œOf course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

    OpenBSD is the easiest BSD to install and most things work right outside the box

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Now imagine the same meme but with Gentoo and LFS

    [–] superfes@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

    I've been thinking about it ...

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not even ready for Arch because I can't make decisions for myself.

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    That's easy, just pick btrfs, gnome, pipewire, systemd, gdm, grub, and add flatpak in your additional packages.

    Every other configuration is wrong.

    /s

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 17 points 10 months ago

    Newfangled bullshit! Choose ext2, twm, alsa, sysvinit, xinit, and compile additional software from source.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    ext4, sway, pipewire, systemd, just use the the standard vconsole, grub and use pacman/AUR/custom PKGBUILDs for everything

    [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Mostly agreed except for grub. Systemd-boot ftw

    I mean it used to be called gummiboot. What more do you want?

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 5 points 10 months ago

    Friends.

    But besides that, yeah, other bootloaders would probably be good for my use case, but ... I'm too lazy, especially because 3/5 of my machines are supposed to be always on (and 2/5 are remote), so changing bootloader will be a hassle.

    [–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Only 3/7 correct. It's almost like you wanted to be wrong πŸ˜„

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

    I yearn for Fedora

    [–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

    Try endeavoros, it's an opinionated arch with a simple installer

    [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

    I put Linux Mint on a thumb drive once a few months ago to try it. So, yeah, I'm pretty into Linux.

    [–] zloubida@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    That's unironically why I like Manjaro πŸ˜…

    [–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

    CachyOS on my side. Lol. Decide for me. I'll change it if I hate it. πŸ™πŸ˜‚

    [–] crawancon@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

    Pepperidge Farms remembers compiling apps via the grimoire spells in sorcerer Linux.

    [–] heleos@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I tried Gentoo recently and I really liked it when I finally figured everything out. I wanted the latest packages similar to arch, but I was basically spending at least an hour every time I started my computer updating. I still really like Gentoo, but it just isn't for me right now. I appreciate what it taught me about Linux though

    [–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

    Compiling dependencies for an hour or so every time I wanted to install something also got a bit old.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    What did Gentoo teach you about Linux?

    I main it (and am never switching again btw), but I learned absolutely nothing new. Packages build themselves, and everything works.

    I was hoping to learn new things about compiling from source, but I guess I will have to make ebuilds for that.

    [–] heleos@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

    I guess more about setup and what other distros do for you behind the scenes. Everyone always talks about how bare bones arch is, but it still does a lot behind the scenes with config and setup, especially with encryption

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Eventually you'll come back to wanting a working easy to use system

    [–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

    I've become my dad. God damn you passage of time!

    [–] tonytins@pawb.social 12 points 10 months ago

    Back in the early 2010s, I had a friend told me that his computer crashed trying to compile all of Gentoo.

    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

    I never tried gentoo cause i never liked the idea of compiling everything. I only compile if i have to because i always feel like it's a waste of time in general. I have used NixOS for the past 6 months though, but i didn't like how many issues it gave me when updating. Now i'm back on good old void linux.

    [–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    NixOS is the better source-based distro. Everything can compile from source, but you can also use the binary cache if you don't want to.

    [–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Nah, Fedora is better, because it has a nice looking logo in neofetch.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    In my experience the only people who find the name Fedora fine are the ones who unironically wear trillbies

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

    Well i didn't even know any other meanings to that word than the distro itself and is fine with it

    [–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 6 points 10 months ago

    so he got sent to nixos

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago

    Did Gentoo ever untangle the NP-complete problems in its package manager?

    [–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

    Lolll. This is me exactly.