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Starfield on PC is the best way to play - but the game still requires a lot of work (www.eurogamer.net)

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm looking forward to playing it. I'm going to wait for 6 months for the game to stabilize. Because that's my Bethesda tradition

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

The tech issues are blown way out of proportion, especially with scaling dialed in at 80%. Runs like a dream on my system.

On steamdeck it chugs in the cities but it's still playable at medium settings.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The waiting 6 months isn't just for tech issues, it's for story patches, or inconsistency updates, or all the little modifications that make life easier.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh; the game isn't even that buggy. Hasn't even crashed on me yet, and I'm running the vanilla release with no patches.

But yeah, performance is a non-issue with the right mods, especially the free version of that DLSS 3 FG mod. In fact, there are a lot of good mods available already that make your life easier. Game has barely been out for a week and I already have 30+ installed.

That said, I can't wait for the larger mods. This game needs some that make going into the procedurely generated areas less boring. Like land vehicles. Or small aircraft. Maybe some more towns in those areas. This is still the biggest game I've ever played, though, even if you don't include the generated areas.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Mine is super buggy. I’ve found 1 mission I can’t complete. My achievements aren’t working, and I haven’t used the panel. Then this thing happened where I was in a conversation with an npc. They walked off mid convo. And the convo options disappeared but I was still in convo mode. I had to reload last save and get there all over again.

I’m just out of the tutorial missions. It runs fine though. I think all of my stuff is high or ultra.

[–] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My achievements aren’t working, and I haven’t used the panel.

My saves from the prerelease were flagged as modded. I assumed it was because the game wasn't technically out idk. Ironically I got them working with a mod.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I’ll look for that mod. Thanks!

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Playable at medium? With the lowest settings I get 20 fps...

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[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Really? I've seen lots of people complaining about loading screens. I'm playing on Xbox and haven't had an issue with it. I'm 82 hours in and only really noticed there's a few 2 second loading screens going from orbit to walking off the ship.

[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Star UI and no menu animation mods make this way more playable.

The console-ified UI is terrible, just as it was for Skyrim and Fallout 4.

[–] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Bethesda has never real done UI well. Even Morrowind and Oblivion had pretty bad UI and those were built for PC.

At least this one recognizes where the mouse is clicking, though.

[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Very tired of the number of people actively trying to police people playing this. It's fun. It's no Mass Effect or Baldur's Gate, and it's certainly not a GOTY, but it's good.

Let people enjoy things.

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[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

Its not bugs but QoL issues. Stuff like inventor management, map interface, triple loading screens, basic HDR support, absent FoV sliders, no DLSS support etc.

It is a great game, but has a lot of baffling QoL problems

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"It’s just as polished as Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom."

Sorry, I can only laugh so much at such a pathetic claim.

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

You can disagree with someone without saying that their opinion is pathetic.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I guess the Zelda franchise isn't what it used to be then?

Suit protection is apparently always depleted, even when it isn't.
The game randomly freezes my entire system at least once per day, if not more, requiring me to hard reset it.
Followers & player character often are missing various body parts.
The game crashes every now and then, sometimes even during saves.
Sometimes assets don't load properly, which bugged out a faction quest and boarding activity for me until I restarted the game and loaded an old save (which I luckily still had).
Every time you close a menu (including the container transfer menu) there's a whole bunch of graphical glitches coming from your character loading its assets back in.
Player spacesuit isn't taken off in spaceships even though I toggled the option in the inventory.
Outpost containers chain link breaks if you manually add or remove items from them, sort of defeating their point as storage units.
I somehow managed to break the rendering engine when I triggered the red mile airlock while tabbing out of the game, causing everything to be black. At first I thought I felt through the ground but I actually had to restart the game as reloading did not help and eventually also crashed the game.
During a quest in New Atlantis I got stuck when I had to use the EM rifle.
Lots and lots of possible sequence breaking that can bug out quests or other parts of the game.
The armory module just deletes all stored items when you edit your ship, instead of throwing it into the cargo. (Might also goes for other containers in other modules, not sure.)
FSR just lowers my performance instead of giving me more FPS.
Lots of other random graphical glitches, especially related to stacking transparency effects from like smoke for example (missiles, smoking docker in one mission, waterfalls, etc.).

And that's just the stuff from the top of my head after about 100 hours. I definitely had not that much and not that severe issues with Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, or Fallout 3. Kinda hoped there would be a patch for some of this stuff already.

[–] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Player spacesuit isn't taken off in spaceships even though I toggled the option in the inventory

It only takes it off in settlements. The toggle specifically says so. That's not a bug.

During a quest in New Atlantis I got stuck when I had to use the EM rifle.

Not sure what you mean by "stuck," but if it's the quest I think you're talking about you have to shoot them until they ragdoll. I thought downing them was enough, but apparently the game wants you to fully incapacitate them.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It only takes it off in settlements. The toggle specifically says so. That’s not a bug.

Then why are crew members taking theirs off on the ship?

Not sure what you mean by “stuck,” but if it’s the quest I think you’re talking about you have to shoot them until they ragdoll. I thought downing them was enough, but apparently the game wants you to fully incapacitate them.

I mean that the bar didn't fill up at some point no matter how much I blasted them.

[–] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Then why are crew members taking theirs off on the ship?

Ask the devs. Ships aren't settlements, I guess. They take their space suits off on habitable planets, but you still keep yours on. If you go to the helmet section the toggle says "breathable areas." It's not a bug, just a weird decision.

I mean that the bar didn't fill up at some point no matter how much I blasted them.

I don't know what that means. There isn't a bar to fill up, you just shoot them to "death."

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a bar above their health when you fire at them with the EM rifle. Sorry but if you don't know what you're talking about, then stop trying to give advice, thanks.

[–] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wasn't giving advice, dipshit. I was trying to get clarification of your dogshit writting. I don't know what you're talking about.

The only "advice" I gave you was pointing out that you were wrong about something. Twice.

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[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

ah yep that quest was another time I dissapointed the follower woman by forgetting about the EM gun and summary executing the affected people

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

90% of what you are experiencing is due to a slow HD not loading assets fast enough. I have it installed on a NVMe and have had no issues like this.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's installed on a Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 SSD. If you think that's too slow then I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not, but it doesn't rule out that there may be an issue with your setup.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, yes, those magical issues that only affect one single game. Your entire argument that the described problems are almost all symptoms of a slow HDD is already an incredibly stupid argument to make but I guess you have to dig yourself further in with it after being proven wrong.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are the only one here with this laundry list of issues, most of your problems stem from texture streaming issues due to a bottleneck on your system. Whether it's the CPU, Hard Drive or GPU is for you to figure out.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If texture streaming is bottlenecked by my cpu then the game already has failed to use my hardware proper.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you admit your CPU is a bottleneck on your system. Sounds like you figured out the problem, not sure how that is Bethesda's fault, should they be responsible to buy you a new CPU so you can play the game properly?

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Wow. That's not just a completely broken reading comprehension but also straight up mental gymnastics. Maybe get that head out of Bethesda's ass so you get some oxygen to think straight again.

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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m loving the game, but I’ve had characters pop in and out of spaces, through walls/doors, models that shake uncontrollably. There’s a bunch of issues with some planets having no breathable air and companions aren’t wearing a suit. Buildings with no air locks on one side that have airlocks on the other. I picked up an item that inexplicably was on the door, to move it back to where it was supposed to be, and got instantly arrested….There is a ton of things to patch.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.cafe 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed, I've had a lot of NPC jank, sometimes items in the environment fall out of place randomly. I had a bug where I couldn't land on Porrima III for a quest, I had to go to some other planets in the system, try to save, quit the game, come back, and it let me.

I sometimes wonder that people are so lax on the definition of a bug that they might say Starfield isn't buggy. It has not been like game breakingly buggy, aside from my quest bug if that had kept up, but it's certainly got a lot of low level bugs that amount to a reasonable bit of jank.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I had a couple game breaking bugs. Once I entered a building and the entire screen was very dark. I could not see anything with a flashlight, and could not turn around and leave. I had to reload. I also found a quest to mine 14 minerals, but the last one couldn’t be mined. The former wasn’t a big deal, but the mining bug drove me nuts.

[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, it is the most polished Bethesda game, but no, it is not "just as polished as TotK". I'm sorry but that's blatantly untrue.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I had to save scum the groundpounder mission because I got soft locked multiple times because an enemy ran off and unloaded before I could kill them to proceed with the mission.

Also, depending on the location, I've had multiple CTDs that required constant quick saving otherwise I'd have to do the same conversation repeatedly (Looking at you, GalBank in Akila City).

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's just as polished as Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.

LMAO

You need to learn what the term "polished" means.

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