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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Donald Trump of living in a "Russian-made disinformation space" due to his administration's talks with Kremlin officials.

He urged Trump's team to be "more truthful" after Trump blamed Kyiv for the war and downplayed U.S. aid contributions.

Zelenskyy’s remarks came as U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg visited Kyiv amid shifting U.S. policy on Russia. Meanwhile, European leaders, feeling sidelined by U.S.-Russia talks, held emergency meetings.

Zelenskyy canceled a Saudi Arabia trip in protest.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 123 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Zelenskyy is completely right on here.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago (7 children)

He isn't, he is still polite to give Donnie a benefit of a doubt, like he is speaking like that because he's got malinformed. No, Trump uses his position to exchange Ukraine and the security of Europe for whatever he was promised or he himself promised beforehand for his success in pres campaign previosly, so he just closes his debts. Zelensky couldn't say that to Trump all other countries and his own nation are paper tokens he uses to play monopoly with his friends. Ukrainian defence depend too deeply on what Biden's given them before so as a diplomat he doesn't want to cross out the US even though he knows that with Trump they'd hardly get anything. And it's not about the US specifically, it's a standard that keeps every other donor comfortable to donate arms and money, setting the climate in which no random and immidiate decisions pass, unlike what Trump does.

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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 112 points 4 months ago (3 children)

America is living in a disinformation space. There is a reason Musk bought Twitter, and it's not because he thought he could make it better for users.

See also: hyperreality

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Also the reason why Saudis funded it. They want a piece of the post truth pie. But why did Elon even bother with the Saudi money? Is it as simple as wanting to keep the high score?

He paid $44 billion for twitter (of his and others' money) but the presidency of the richest country on earth only cost $250 million? It doesn't add up at all.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Trump is a russian marionette

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not just Russia's puppet. He'll let literally anyone stick their hand up his ass if they pay him.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (33 children)

Very handy that he has his own $Trump coin. Not a word of protest from conservatives.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Trump and Musk literally got regular phone mentoring on how to do what they're doing (shape and install an official Oligarchy). You don't need to create an information space when the participants are willingly taking direct lessons and coaching from Putin.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The republican traitor filth must be held to account.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Theres even people here on lemmy living in that space

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[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (10 children)

I don't get it. How will they sell to the people this total capitulation? I'm not American. As far as I'm informed people there don't like and don't trust Russia and Putin. Won't they see this deal and be like wtf?

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are people here who will tell you that they would trust the Russian government more than their neighbor, if their neighbor ever suggested that industry should be regulated.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I stopped being nice to those neighbors. Feed your own cats. No I'm not turning the music down. Get fucked traitors.

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[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

The most telling statistic about Russia's trustworthiness is that every single independent country that shares a border with Russia on the West has mandatory military service and those in the same region without a shared border with Russia don't.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

They don’t have their own thoughts anymore; they love trump so much, they’re just going along with whatever he says and he says he likes Russia, so they’ve done a complete about-face on the subject.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Zelenskyy acting more like the character expected of an American president than the one who got elected to be America's President.

[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Can we start calling Trump supporters Commies now, I feel that would make them mad.

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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I often wonder how it goes behind closed doors. Is Zelenskyy all polite or is he more like you're full of shit and you fucking know it?

[–] VerifiedSource@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Zelensky is a media and communication master.

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[–] Kompressor@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's the same false reality bubble that got Putin to think he could take Ukraine in 3 days, Same one that made Britain dipshits think Brexit was going to be a golden age and it was the opposite, and now Trump and his republican dumbfucks are under the same illusion that rewinding the clock to the late 1800s and trying to force this country to be a christian kingdom of conformity and idiocy will be a good thing long term and not spell the end of this place allowing China to finalize their technological power takeover and become the new pinnacle of influence on the planet. Wouldn't be surprised if all of these very priceless high level intel all roots from China.

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[–] takeiteasypolicy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Lol. no. Trump is living in Trump made disinformation space.

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