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[–] hh93@lemm.ee 139 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And the German government in charge of the ticket already voiced their interest in making both tickets compatible so that people can use the traffic in either country with the ticket of the other one

Could lead to a pseudo-standard that could result in an eu-wide ticket of such type in the long run

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would be amazing and would up the value of the EU as a connected zone.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 years ago

Now if we could have more than one single high speed rail coming out of Italy into Europe, that'd be great. I'm freaking sick of airports.

[–] HerrLewakaas@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

This is what I always hoped would happen. Once one country does it and it works, there's no excuse for other countries to not follow suit

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 30 points 2 years ago

Excellent. I hope the next announcement is that the French and German tickets are interchangable, so I can take the Thalys to Paris and use my Deutschlandticket there for the metro. Maybe in ten years we can finally use such tickets all over Europe and make rail travel soooo much simpler. I'm sure buying the correct train ticket without getting shafted by the DB is one of the most complicated endeavours for tourists in Germany.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cries in american. I wish we could have public transportation.

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Don't worry, it's still pretty sucky in europe

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really wish the US has functional public transportation. I guess that's "CoMmuNiSm."

[–] existenzmaximum@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

We prefer to call it commutism.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Finally, SNCF is bothering to compete with Ryanair.

Oh it's Intercity and not a TGV/ICE fare? Fuck that noise.

[–] Mirumoto@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The German pass looks really cool as it includes all rail transport in and between cities. The French pass seems really underwhelming compared to the German one. It only includes TER and inter cities but you still have to pay additional fees to travel locally and it can be very expensive in Paris.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The German pass looks really cool as it includes all rail transport in and between cities

Not quite, you can only use regional trains, not the high speed intercity trains.

So for example, if you want to go from Frankfurt to Berlin, that usually takes 4.5 to 5 hours with either one or zero times you have to switch trains.

With the 49€ ticket that journey would take you between 8 and 10 hours on up to 6 different trains.

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I recently travelled to cologne by train using only the €49 ticket. Should've taken 15h but due to delays it took 17h. Had to change teains like 6 or 7 times... maybe not the best way to travel through germany. The same route takes about 6h using a direct ICE connection.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Should’ve taken 15h

Dude, you're hardcore. Without the ICE I simply would not visit any of my relatives. Already pisses me off that it takes 2h of regional trains to get to my mom. I can take 6h ICE .. in first class with my laptop, wifi and power. But dude. 15h in regional trains, wtf?

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, can confirm this but hopefully that changes soon…would be the dream for sure.

[–] tycho@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

From the article:

The pass will also cover local bus, metro, and tram travel, “if possible,” Beaune said. The full details have not yet been finalised.

Of course, I'm not particularly confident that they will actually cover this but at least they are thinking about it.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes. The price of a subscription for unlimited public transport in Paris and the surrounding areas is more than 80€/month. So if such a pass were to actually offer all public transport it would be a huge net loss since all Parisian would switch to it and start paying much less.

On the other hand public transportation subscriptions in smaller cities is much much less expensive, so for non Parisians this may not be worth that much.

Not sure how that would play out regarding redistribution of wealth.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

I mean, that's exactly what happened in Germany. Instead of 110€ for local and regional trains in Stuttgart, I pay 49€ for local and regional trains in all of Germany.

The ticket is immensely subsidized by the government. The transport agencies are basically compensated for these losses.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

That's not even including French strikes /s ( well not even really...)

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe I missed it in the article but what is the duration of the ticket? Is it a one time ticket, monthly or something else?

[–] highduc@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's monthly, otherwise it's just a regular ticket, no?

[–] avater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You order the ticket as a subscription service with monthly cancellation - the ticket runs month after month until you cancel the contract.

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

that's crazy! that's like 1.5 weeks of my train costs just to get to and from.work here. what a deal

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The new €49 pass will offer passengers unlimited travel on TER regional services and intercity trains.

French people – irrespective of their age – can buy this pass and have unlimited travel on an intercity or TER for a flat, inexpensive price,” he told France 2.

TER trains connect local destinations within French regions and serve around 1.1 million passengers per day.

The French ticket aims to wean commuters off carbon-intensive forms of transport, President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday.

With more than 52 million tickets sold, the pass has helped reduce carbon emissions from traffic.

German transport association VDV claims that it saved around 1.8 million tonnes of carbon emissions during June, July, and August this year.


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[–] dodekaphilist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have I read that correctly that only French people shall benefit from this offer? That would really suck to see this discrimination between European nationalities

[–] Krachsterben@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

It's for anyone living in France.