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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Hot take: Batleths are bad weapons. Probably introduced as a form of handicapping.

Shadiversity's take on Batleths which surely wont cause any controversy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsElSDXPgSA

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Could also be that Klingon muscles are different from ours, they have a whole bunch of redundant organs after all, and the Batleth is designed to take advantage of their unique strengths

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 14 points 2 years ago

That is a excellent point, I hadn't thought of that, I just assumed all humanoids are about the same, but your totally right

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

All the extra pointy bits could be good for puncturing multiple organs at once

[–] DrChaotica@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

Physics does not work that way, you insolent fool!

Regardless of Klingon muscles, the fact that the blade sticks out sideways from the handle creates a lever arm that tends to make it droop due to gravity whenever it's held horizontally. Even if Klingon hands are different, they're not that different that it's somehow advantageous to keep torquing upwards so the blade points at the opponent instead of the floor.

[–] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't see a batleth as a weapon. See it as extention to your arms and movement - or something similar did Worf say to Alexander.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it often is described by Klingons as a monastic weapon, meant to teach a lesson or discipline while training with it. I don't think the idea is for like a formation of Klingons to march into battle all wielding Bat'leths.

You train with a Bat'leth and then when a real battle comes you are more prepared to fight with other weapons, or even unarmed. It even makes sense in that the Bat'leth is a very complex object. I can totally see how simply trying to spar with it would force you to think more about all the different ways you can use the thing in your hands to your advantage.

[–] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That makes sense. Interesting!

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I rest my case, your honor.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought that was cannon? It's that not specifically mentioned somewhere? I can't remember when I heard it but I always thought that they were made to be hard to use, because winning a battle with a regular weapon is easy and therefore less honorable.

And if you watch the actors try to swing these things around they always look awkward.

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Give it to a bunch of bored monks. If they could make something as useless as two chained sticks into a cool weapon..

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Basically dark age knights could have beaten Klingons in battle.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Even worf seems to agree, by Picard s3 he has a sort of batleth / katana hybrid instead of a classic one. Though I think he already said in DS9 that he actually prefers the mekleth.

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[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a minute I thought it was something like ice skating blades. Why does this weapon exist?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 2 years ago

looks cool and alien, perfect for a tv show about warrior aliens.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago

This will keep happening until Amazon starts cracking down on cheap Ferengi knock-offs with fake reviews.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This sharpener has no honour!

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

Made by some p'tahk no doubt.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone knows you must sharpen them with real stones from the home planet, lubricated with the blood of your enemies.

[–] Loid@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I was looking at the market and noticed that the blood of your enemies was too expensive. Is olive oil a good substitute?

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Have you seen olive oil prices lately? You enemies blood is definitely cheaper.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

I think this is one of those times when there's really no substitute for producing your own.

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

If you can't get fresh, instant is fine

[–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Olive oil is too thick and will go rancid and harden. Use mineral oils

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I've definitely heard of people using it. Although I've also heard an oil with a higher smoke point may be better.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What kind of person sharpens a batleth? What do they think they are going to use it for?

Do they want to chop off random parts of their body?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The sharper the bat'leth, the greater the honor.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

If using your enemies blood, yes. A electric sharpener alone.... not so much.

[–] cl4p_tp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about Valyrian steel?

[–] OpenStars@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

This guy Bat'leths:-)

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What about klingon daggers? But even if, it can't repair/improve klingon pain sticks, so it's useless anyway

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DANG IT! Well now I gotta find another one...

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I haven't found a blade yet that I can't sharpen with my Lansky kit. It would just take a couple hours to get the thing razor sharp