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[โ€“] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fun fact: if you go to this song's Genius page, the line, And every time a student gets run over by a tank, is annotated to be about Tinyman Tank Man

It is in fact about Rachel Corrie, who was fatally crushed by an Israeli tank in 2003

Fuck it, here's a link in case anyone wants to interact with it

[โ€“] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I already knew that and I find it abnormal how a Mandela Effect is among the liberals that the man in Tinyman's Square was crushed by the tank, only he was only taken out of the way.

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[โ€“] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Whoever wrote the Genius annotation admitted that he wasn't harmed, but Roger's criticizing Bad Authoritarians so he must mean China

Nevermind that Israel, arguably Waters' main political topic, actually did crush a student with a tank in Palestine

ETA Oh my god, the annotation suggestion that mentions Corrie has been marked as a stretch

[โ€“] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And I would call his interpretation of "Watching TV" over simplistic, it's a song that has the fucking verses:

Her grandpa fought old Chiang Kai-shek//

That no-good low-down dirty rat

Who used to order his troops

To fire on the women and children

Imagine that imagine that

And in the spring of '48

Mao Tse-tung got quite irate

And he kicked that old dictator Chiang

Out of the state of China

Chiang Kai-shek came down in Formosa

And they armed the island of Quemoy

And the shells were flying across the China Sea

And they turned Formosa into a shoe factory

Called Taiwan


Instead of being an empty critique of authoritarianism, I consider this song much more a sincere lament of the direction that China was taking in the years of Deng given past history. A criticism that can be disagreed but that has its background of truth.

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[โ€“] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Oh wow, I didn't know about that one. I knew that Waters had been very vocal about Israel and - wherever I've seen him anyway - has been much cooler than I've expected from a fairly old rock star. I didn't know he was out there dropping direct historical narratives, though. I'll have to listen closer next time I try one of his albums

All I want from him politically is pretty much what he already does: being anti-imperialist in a way that refers to our global empire rather than like, "it was imperialistic of you to eat the last funyun without asking"