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[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Personally, I just pirate the FLAC files from RED, and play them with VLC. Several advantages to this:

  • Spotify is owned by a shitty, greedy company with shitty, greedy practices.
  • Spotify enforces DRM on almost all its media.
  • FLAC files have superior quality as they are lossless
  • I can play them offline without a subscription
  • Downloads are pretty much instant, as private trackers have insane seeder to leecher ratio

I'm sorry if this isn't the response you're looking for, but as other people have already given recommendations for alternatives, I thought I would just give my 2 cents.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

FYI for everyone, RED is a private tracker

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Fair enough, I forgot to explicitly mention that 😅

Here's the interview site if anyone wants: https://interviewfor.red/. It's actually quite easy.

[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thx, but there's also no shortage of music torrent sites. I use 1337x and TPB without issues for years now.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

You don't need a private tracker. I use one because I have music needs that public trackers cannot satisfy.

In fact, I DO NOT recommend a private tracker unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure that public trackers cannot satisfy your needs.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

AKA a single point of failure

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What exactly do you mean by "a single point of failure"? Do you mean that if the tracker goes down, I cannot pirate more music?

How is that different from Spotify? Does Spotify not have "a single point of failure"? At least with RED, I keep all my FLAC files even if the tracker gets busted.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The carefully curated library on the tracker is a lot of effort that can be destroyed very quickly as evidenced by the fact it has happened before, yet people still use private trackers.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

But I don't need the entire "carefully curated library"? I only need the music that appeals to me, that is, the music I've already downloaded and seeded. Even if the tracker goes down, at least I'll have access to the files I've stored to my local storage.

With Spotify, unless you paid for Premium to download the songs, you don't even have that guarantee. If the service/your account is gone, you lose everything.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago

I've never said Spotify is any good.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

What are you trying to say with this?

[–] Rodneyck@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I use RiMusic which is Google Music without the adds. You can get it via Fdroid with the IzzyOnDroid repos added. There is also Spotube for all platforms, also available on Fdroid. I haven't had time to try this one out.

[–] jay@lemmy.sotu.casa 4 points 4 months ago

I use RiMusic and love it. I was using ViMusic, but then it got discontinued and I found RiMusic, which is a fork (and I like it better than the original).

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Youtube Music ReVanced should be good, it's the legacy of Youtube Music Vanced, which has served me well for years, even after its takedown.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Been using YT music Revanced since summer and it's great. No ads and being able to have my phone off is heaven.

I really don't get why Spotify people hate YT music and get so elitist about it, it literally has every song to ever exist; if it's on YouTube, it's on YT Music. I especially love it cause videogame OSTs are on there and frequently I see people crying "why isn't it on Spotify?"

[–] delmain@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a YTM hater, here are my reasons:

  1. They closed down Google Play Music, which was an objectively better service, and didn't have feature parity in YTM when they did so. They had promised it, so regardless of arguments towards what it might have now or what features might not be needed because XYZ reasons, they promised that all the features from GPM would be in YTM before GPM was sunset and that was simply not true.
  2. Maybe this has changed, but at launch, I couldn't "Like" a song to influence my generated playlists without it "Liking" the video on main youtube, which influences my video recommendations. I don't want YouTube serving me exclusively music videos because it sees my YTM Likes and vice versa.
[–] gingernate@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

#3 every fucking song is edited . If I hear another edited Hollywood undead song again I'm going to fucking lose it

[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Spotube: It's not the greatest UX, but will read your Spotify Playlists and supports offline mode.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

jokes aside, spotube's great

[–] JayGray91@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago

annoying that they get preachy about it

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Weird, isn't working for me

[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I don't know if you tried it or not, but I'd suggest that you install the latest release from their Download Page, as opposed to other sources.

I've noticed on Android, that the F-Droid Version is not "quickly" updated and frequently breaks due to breaking changes from Google.

(I've also just upgraded to v4.0 on my android phone and it's working - good luck!)

[–] Krusty@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago

This is what I'm using. I like their playlist generator

[–] Duckling5746@lemmy.today 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you like offline music Poweramp on Android is great. Not free tho

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago

i love the headphone profiles in poweramp!

[–] snake@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

auxio for my offline collection (which i've been slowly building so that i don't have to stream anymore)

pipepipe for youtube

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They kept jacking up the prices and making the streaming services worse so I finally pulled the plug and went offline. It's a pain in the ass, to be honest, but once it's all set up it's really quite nice. The only long term issue is discoverability. I feel a bit like I'm stuck with the music I have now and discovering new music and listening to it is such a hassle that I just don't do it. That said, I no longer pay for streaming, and I like what I have, so I'm not complaining.

I can strongly recommend Plexamp, which integrates well into an existing Plex setup.

Lidarr is a great complement to an existing Arr stack. And if you're going to host your own music, you might as well look at Sonarr and Radarr, which are so great.

[–] Cronzo@lemmus.org 5 points 4 months ago

I've been using YouTube Music for a long time. I encourage everyoneone to download the Revanced Manager (link here) and mod the original APK (you can download it from anywhere, namely pureApk or uptodown) by yourself. The process is incredibly easy and you can have almost all advantages of premium without paying a penny, like with the modded Spotify APK.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 4 months ago

NewPipe on Soundcloud and look for dj sets

[–] felipe@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Feishin seems to be the best option for navidrome on windows and linux as far as I am aware but I have this really annoying bug that prevents me from seeing any tracks that I don't have marked as favorites for some reason.

[–] felipe@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think that is an option. Maybe do you enabled it? Did you try reaching the community through github or discord?

[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

It is an option under the filter menu but in my case it cannot be turned off. The slider is in the off position and I still only see my favorites

[–] nivellian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Youtube Music Revanced Extended, using NodeJS Builder on PC. Generally the audio on youtube music feels more alive than on spotify for me. I often experience where the same song has a wider stereo field on yt music, means spotify internally modifies the stereo spread in songs. Also yt music allows louder playback, spotify is stuck with standards that I have no sympathy for. I say if a song sounds good then just let it be, don't generalize all songs.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 1 points 4 months ago

I've observed the same thing about YT music's audio. It's actually a bit frustrating because YT has the better quality, it's louder too (Spotify app is strangely quiet in comparison), the algorithm is nicer, I actually even like the UI a little better. But the queue system sucks donkey balls, there's no cross-system control, and no jam so I often go back to Spotify when with friends.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Navidrome with tempo if you go the self hosted route

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

If you're into metal you should check out rokk-app.com. Kamelot's drummer is involved, and they claim to pay artists much more than the alternatives. You can also select a particular band which will get a direct share of your subscription.

It just came out last week so it's rough around the edges for now, but it might be worth checking how it evolves over time.

[–] echindod@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

I'm still using Airsonic-Advanced. I know there are alternatives like gonic and navidrome. But, eh. I like buy music from Bandcamp or directly from the artist, and then upload it to airsonic. Works nice.

[–] bedouin 2 points 4 months ago
[–] badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

I have about 500 Gb in my personal library running jellyfin - which I hardly use anymore. I gladly give Tidal $20/month for a family plan, not just for the added value, but because they actually pay for the music, unlike Shitify. The stream quality is even better than about half of my collection. There are other good services and specialty services. Deezer is another. I don't mind helping the artists.

[–] crimeschneck@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ooli2@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

thanks I downloaded it.. first time I find an easy download option on github.. I though you had to jump trough hoop to install anything from github. Seems to work fine, thanks a lot

[–] pedro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Look into obtainium for downloading apks from github, you can grab it from fdroid