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Ontario will impose a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to New York, Michigan, and Minnesota starting Monday in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods.

Premier Doug Ford warned U.S. governors and vowed to maintain the surcharge until all tariffs are lifted.

Canada has already imposed $30 billion in retaliatory tariffs, with more planned.

Ford also threatened to cut power to the states by April and banned U.S. firms from bidding on Ontario contracts. A $100M SpaceX deal for rural internet was also scrapped in response.

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[–] VacheronPatek@feddit.nl 139 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 86 points 3 months ago (4 children)

As an American- Agree. The dumbfucks in this country aren't going to understand they fucked up, until the pain kicks in.

[–] Drax_@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Except 2/3 of those states voted blue.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It sucks, but that's where we are at. It's not like the majority of the Dems are doing anything to actually fight back against this. If blue states get hit too, it might actually get them moving.

[–] Drax_@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. I just wish they hit more red states.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Same, man. I just wish we weren't going through any of it, but we have too many emotionally and mentally stunted people over here that have us in this situation in the first place.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 months ago

Plenty of red outside the cities, though, and if they figure out why they're suddenly paying more for electricity, it may change a few minds about Republicans.

Of course, they're more likely to just blame Democrats for it, but one can hope.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Any foreigner should avoid visiting US or buying US products to put pressure too.

It is crazy to advocate for it, as I live in US, but this administration needs pressure from everywhere.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Pretty sure american products don't have much of a presence outside of the USA because they're actually low-quality and expensive.

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[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I'm discouraged to even buy American because Trump and the Republicans have basically turned that into a nationalist policy. I used to love buying American and local, but it feels gross to think that I'm supporting their agenda.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm certain he's doing it for the wrong reasons, but it's nice to see the angry raging conservative attacking a genuine asshole for once.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly he's even doing it for the right reasons. His country has been economically attacked. Not to respond would just make it worse.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I suspect he's playing it up for the camera in order to differentiate himself from American conservatives now that they've begun turning on Canada. It's something I imagine we'll see out of Poilievre as well, because otherwise they'll quickly become unelectable.

Just remember that they were chums all up until this point, and that's still damning. Ford supported American conservatives all the way until the leopards turned to eat his face. Yeah, it's cool that he's going above and beyond to fight back now, but he still wants Ontario to act like Texas.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Not disagreeing at all. It's the standard right wing mode of operation, nothing matters until it affects them personally. It should be studied as a developmental disability.

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[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Glad Canada is sticking to I because they’re sending a message Trump that they’re not going to fuck around with him flipping the on/off switch on tariffs

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think the damage is done. I hope to never see American liquor in stores ever again.

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m American I agree. Your country doesn’t deserve our businesses if we have a dictator running our country

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

We will be happy to come back as soon as America enacts stronger protections to prevent this from happening again and dumps Trump. Nothing wrong the the American people, it's just one American and one south African than are ruining everything for everyone.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're forgetting about the 70 million folks who voted for him. Terrible hateful folks

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

There's definitely a lot wrong with a large portion of the American people.

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Exactly -- the threat of tariffs -- and annexation! -- must not only stop, but be refuted forever by a new treaty, signed by the US. Promising both will stop, for good, is the only remedy now.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Trump himself signed the treaty that he now claims is unfair. The US doesn't have respect for honour, the law, or even reality anymore. They voted in a criminal to be their President, they have no respect for anything except money now.

There is no promise or treaty that will bring this to a conclusion forever.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 36 points 3 months ago

I'm ok with this and live in one of the affected states.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (6 children)

No offense but Trump would welcome these on highly liberal Minnesota and New York and be impartial to Michigan. These are not affecting conservative states.

[–] beanie@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 months ago (6 children)

It will affect the customers, who are rural. The states are blue, because of their cities, but the cities aren’t reliant on Canadian electricity. The rural areas are, and they vote red.

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[–] Septapus@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do what you have to do it's all good. I'm going to be part of the brain drain in this country. My wife and I are POC we are guaranteed first class tickets to death camps or be made slaves for existing. Our populations have been marginalized and kicked in the ribs for centuries. We have no reason to fight or to 'stay and fix the country' any more than the German Jews of last century did. I don't want to be made responsible for what racist whites have enabled to happen in this country.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've got quite the resume and I've been having trouble finding sponsors overseas. I would love to be a part of the brain drain.

[–] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

I'm about to get my Mexican permanent residency 🥳

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

~~I'm waiting for him to tear up the gd damn Starlink contract that he keeps threatening to do, but hasn't done.~~

He said he's ripped up the contact.

Drug Fraud isn't known for keeping his word.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I like it, but I'm a little confused.

Why does an individual province determine trade policy? Is this normal for Canada?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The deal is between the provincial utility, which provides the electricity, and the state utility. In the USA, the federal government controls most resource rights. In Canada, it's the provinces. Comparatively, provinces are a lot more powerful than states are. As I understand it.

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[–] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When Trump said "America is back!" did he mean in the back of the line? Cause that's where we're at fellas.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In healthcare, we've been back of the line for decades.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And Trump cares that these blue states will be cut off why?

[–] Tailzse836@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe a state like NY votes blue in state wide elections, but they vote in a lot of Republicans for the House in districts outside if NYC

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[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hold up - if there is already a 25% tariff - IE tax - on Canadian electricity, does that mean that there is now another 25% tax on that electricity?

And wouldn't this have a slight compounding effect on the second us tariff?

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but us postponed their tariffs another month.

[–] deadfatquarterzip@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Thing that sucks tho, is at this point it doesn't matter if there's tariffs or not, since people have started preparing as if there will be. Worse, tariffs get integrated into an economy and are next to impossible to un-do. God 45 is so stupid

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Since Trump wants to complain about the trade deficit, Canada should cap exports to be equal to imports from the US. Poof no more trade deficit.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not enough, it should be 100% and another thing if we have a surplus that we sell, why the fuck is electricity so expensive in Ontario!?

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[–] towelie@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Based Doug Ford was not on my 2025 bingo card.

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