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The ongoing and often extreme and overreaching battle against piracy within the audiovisual industry continues to escalate, with recent discussions focusing on devices capable of infringing intellectual property (IP) rights. As stated by Sheila Cassells, Executive VP at the Audiovisual Anti-Piracy Alliance (AAPA), companies in the entertainment sector should be wary of “any technological development” that could potentially grant access to pirated content.

From historical technology like the VCR to modern advances like AI, all technology holds inherent potentials for piracy.

At the center of these discussions are specific devices including set-top boxes, Firesticks, and Android apps, often condemned for enabling piracy. The AAPA’s somewhat radical standpoint is a call to outlaw the production, marketing, and distribution of any such device.

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[–] mariah@feddit.rocks 135 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What? Are they gonna ban every device ever

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And replace them with walled-garden devices that don't allow you to do anything besides a restricted set of uses defined by manufactures and right holders.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Which just so happen to enforce ultra conservative moral standards and make any discourse about changing the system impossible. Totally coincidentally, of course.

[–] panmeek@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure that you had a certain company in mind when you wrote this

[–] catsup@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Walled garden? More like golden prission

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

They are probably so out of touch that they might just ban the sale of DVD burners lol

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 92 points 2 years ago (2 children)

By that logic pencils are banned since you can plagiarize copyrighted text with them. Can't teach kids to write, because writing is a tool of piracy.

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't forget that you are not allowed to talk, since you might retell a licensed work.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Everyone should also be lobotomized so they cant have illegal copies of intellectual property in their head either

[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 12 points 2 years ago

Please don't give them ideas

[–] 01189998819991197253 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's literally everything. Every. Single. Thing. What an idiot.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is how they do it though. "We're going to ban everything!" Some months later 10 things are banned. Regular people "Whew! Well at least they only banned 10 things and not everything. We're so lucky!".

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Damn, well it's been fun using digital electronics everyone

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have no plans to stop, this will be difficult if not impossible to enforce.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago

Scofflaw! Scofflaw I say!

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You could use a typewriter to copy any book, so they’re about as dangerous a technology as it gets.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You might use your brain to remember scenes from a movie. You ever heard someone recite movie dialogue? That's copyright infringemet. Line up for your mandatory brain wipe.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Some of these Anti-piracy advocates already wiped their brains years ago lol.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

The AAPA’s somewhat radical standpoint is a call to outlaw the production, marketing, and distribution of any such device.

That's not "somewhat radical", it's absolutist insanity. They want full control of everyone, so they can extract maximum profit, individuality and freedom be damned.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

RIP my prescription glasses.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, reactionary extremist endorses radical sweeping policy without considering consequences?

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

I can't see this going wrong at all

[–] Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (101 children)

Let's ban computers then. Oh you can share content from these various technologies ? Ban them ! Your CPU is able to process data of any kind ? Banned ! You made a code project that is able to process and share data ? Banned !

This whole trend of banning things that "can" be used to make any illegal activities is ridiculous. VPNs are widely used by pirates and criminals to share illegal content on the web but it is also a very powerful tool to escape censorship and obtain a certain of privacy on the web. Tor also falls into it, while ironically being made by the US army, is also a very good free tool for activists of all kind to express their claims and evade censorship as well. Torrent was made to transfer files of any kind as a peer to peer technology and is still very useful outside of sharing illegal content.

If we start banning every tools used by the common people for normal (and legal) practices because a small group of people use them for illegal purpose, everything will be restricted, banned or heavily regulated.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This whole trend of banning things that "can" be used to make any illegal activities is ridiculous.

Ban cars, they can be used to commit crimes. Hell ban bikes as well. Gloves, sunglasses and hoodies next. Basically just ban everything until we're all just chained to a desk wearing a toga and grinding away for our overlords on PCs that can only run the one company app.

[–] Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

Let's ban open source softwares because we can't regulate them

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oops! Now pens and pencils, and computers and paints and such are outlawed because they can all be used to duplicate copyrighted materials and infringe upon IPs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also our brains are banned, too, since we use them to plan and take actions to infringe on IP.

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[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 27 points 2 years ago

They are going to feel pretty damn stupid when nobody can buy/rent/watch/listen to their content and products...

Because, ya know... any product which can play any form of media, has the potential to infringe on IP....

I say, give them EXACTLY what they want. Give them, a week or two with zero profits, and see how quickly they change their tune.

[–] d1tt0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago

She probably wrote that quote in an email with the signature "From my iPhone".

what a dolt.

[–] kid4today@feddit.uk 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve got a better idea, let’s just ban human beings!

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[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She should start by banning her eyes.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

So computers and phones should be banned too then? These people are absolutely clowns lmao

[–] jsdz@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Don't these pirates know that their illegal schemes to make unauthorized copies and recordings of things causes EUR 3.19 trillion in financial damage to rights owners every year? It seems they will never learn, so we will need new laws. Mandatory client-side scanning for copyrighted material must be built in to all cameras and phones, or our whole economy will surely collapse.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Judging by the downvotes, I guess not many people can sense sarcasm here.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Let's ban writing! Return to monkey!

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Time to ban all computing devices.

[–] mefinity@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 years ago

So, everything

[–] PlatypusXray@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago

Maybe one day people will wake up and realize that it is somewhat odd to think you could own ideas. Intellectual property is a bullshit concept.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago

Maybe instead of trying to blame the tools, why don't we blame the system instead?

Copyright shouldn't be a thing in the 21th century.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

Shut your fucking cake-hole Sheila. It might reproduce copyrighted content.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This might be the dumbest shit I've heard in a while.

You'd better ban fingers too.

And all kinds of cameras and recording devices.

Laptops. Computers. Smart TVs. Ban it all. We'll play with a hoop and a stick and be happy.

[–] Iceblade02@lemdit.com 11 points 2 years ago

Oh no but you might use a stick to draw a copyrighted work in the sand!

Sounds like she needs to go off grid completely because clearly she doesn't understand that a large percentage of the world is made up of tech. Might as well ban her phone, laptop, television, vehicle, etc. Let her become a tree fairy.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

After reading the article this is yet again the same argument that if nothing is done, artists and creators are the one being hurt by the piracy.

Except that it is not.

The claim for banning anything and everything that can be potentially subverted to facilitate access to protected intelectual property is ridiculous. The world would grind to a halt if such request was to be actually enforced, as anyone participating in this thread has already stated.

But what if we were to actually jump on this band wagon?

By definition, any word spoken on a podcast, any video on a video platform, any word or sentence jotted down on any social platform, is intelectual property if by any means can be monetized.

Let's claim our share of the revenue gained from our intelectual property. Let's demand that by definition every individual is protected by copyright law, even if we need to create associations to collectively represent us.

How would that work against this pile of idiocy?

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

I'm just going to go outside and check the seedbox running on my Tesla roadster before I rip and upload a couple of episodes using the computer on my refrigerator and then post them from my Smart TV.

Checkmate copyright whores.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't we already pay something extra on each device, because it could be used (how democratic) to handle pirated media?

If so, discussion done.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Well that’s stupid. I could infringe IP by carving a gloved mouse on a stone tablet. Are you gonna ban stone tablets? And hands? Jesus, Sheila, get a grip.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ahh 'technological development'. I've been to the museum and learned how paper is made. And how ballpoint pens are made. Would that constitute technology or are we allowed to use pens and paper?

But the linked interview within the linked article mainly talks about IPTV and video streaming. I think this clickbaity title is taking things out of context.

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