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We are getting reports of YouTube rolling out an experiment to some accounts where normal videos only have DRM formats available on the tv (TVHTML5) Innertube client.

This is not limited to yt-dlp. Tests have been run with the same account on various official YouTube TV clients (PS3, web browser, apple tv) and they are also only getting DRM formats for videos.

We live in hell-world.

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[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 69 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Theyre adding DRM to videos they don't own. Sounds like a lawsuit

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 63 points 3 months ago

Terms and conditions. What's yours is theirs.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They do own them, though. That's what happens when you upload content to Youtube. Or virtually any other website, for that matter.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nope. The person who uploads the video owns the copyright/IP. Seems like they should have say in if theres DRM on their IP.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Yeah but the YT terms explicitly say that you give them a worldwide royalty free license to do whatever the fuck they want.

Content creators have no say.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

They most certainly have this covered in ToS. IP law is not about actual creators' rights.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Screw them! We'll build our own peertube, with blackjack, and hookers

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Peertube is f****** amazing, But your average windows user isn't going to be able to manage the hosting. And your average ISP blocks standard hosting ports. Then it also requires the users to manage their own monetization.

It's not undoable but it is kind of a steep slope.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can use an already hosted instance, there is no need to selfhost every service.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think they were maybe speaking to the peer-to-peer "hosting" part of peertube. If not enough people are contributing to bandwidth, then more falls back to the server, increasing the cost to run it.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

Mainly storage. The only reason these free hosted sites can stand up is because they have low traffic. If 0.01% of YouTubers started dumping all their video over there, they'd quickly run the free services out of town.

Realistically, If it were easy enough for everyone to host locally (torrent style) and people paired up with hosting partners for backups, peertube could be an amazing Youtube alternative.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Paying for bandwidth and cloud storage rates for video hosting is pretty much worst case. I'd argue that if you were going to self host anything video would be the most important

[–] kat@orbi.camp 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I joined it but the main feed was just a lot of NSFW content.... So made it kind of awkward for discovery.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Discovery is a major hurdle. There are plenty of instances that don't have NSFW you should poke around to find something suitable.

[–] kat@orbi.camp 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Feel free to recommend some!

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

With good content? That's a hard find :)

Plenty without NSFW though

I frequent https://v.basspistol.org/ but they're mostly music

do keep in mind you can also use their filters

like these on https://vid.freedif.org/

[–] 404nickname@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Here are some #PeerTube instance recommendations and a few interesting channels, I'd say: https://tube.tchncs.de/ https://tux-edu.tv/ https://share.tube/ https://video.infosec.exchange/ https://videos.lukesmith.xyz/

Or channels which might be interesting: @thelinuxexperiment@tilvids.com(also has a #Podcast tlenewspodcast@podcast.thelinuxexp.com), @niccolo_ve@tube.kockatoo.org, @vkc@tinkerbetter.tube or @zleap@diode.zone

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone doesn't have to host their own instance.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone doesn’t have to host their own instance.

They don't, but how long do you think a free instance is going to last when it starts seeing serious volume. Video storage in the cloud is expensive AF.

[–] 0range@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, video storage is what prevents corporations from creating YouTube competitors, and it also prevents decentralized users from competing

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

and it also prevents decentralized users from competing

It doesn't have to. PT is just using webtorrent. Make a desktop client that links into existing PT instances for discovery and indexing, but have the DHT pull the files right off the person's home box. Every content creator makes a buddy, they pin each other's content. Every content creator stores their own stuff + 1 person.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 months ago

i've been half-expecting them to roll-out drm for everything including cat videos and shit for awhile now.

[–] 01189998819991197253 32 points 3 months ago

We live in hell-world.

Yes. Yes, we do.

[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 26 points 3 months ago

Praying for Smarttube

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Motherfucker I'd better get started archiving

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 14 points 3 months ago

Wouldn't surprise me if they did this to hamper other companies easily scrubbing videos for AI training

[–] BillionsMustSeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I wanted to archive a few channels, but was stopped by the lack of storage. Guess I'm out of luck as my storage upgrade is a long while away :(

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

With yt-dlp you can DL the videos at lower resolution / quality, so that at least you can have one offline working copy in the meantime.

[–] cymor@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

Archive.org has a lot of storage.

[–] MalMen@masto.pt 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@SnotFlickerman sure it gets harder with DRM, but they will just make DRM break accessible to anyone..

This is my contribution https://github.com/MalMen/HellYes/

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Shatter Google.