The worst type of person is the person who is so allergic to being "wrong" that they'll constantly double down with new bullshit to try to convince people why it wasn't a mistake in the first place. It's fucking exhausting.
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2025
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It's honestly so many people! How did admitting you are wrong become so painful for so much of society?
It's not society, it's a human thing because we evolved that way. Plenty of discussion on exactly this all over the internet. Too tired to think it out and write a bunch, but I'm a firm believer. Also, note this trait is splattered all over the planet, not just a country or two.
Life experience has born this out. Admitting fault is seen as a weakness. Even though people don't consciously think it, you still get a ding on your "social score". Here's the one exception in my life that proves the rule:
Worked at a place where admitting fault was an highly esteemed action. No one so much as tried to blunt the blame with clever words. Afterwards, no fingers were pointed and we worked together to figure out how to fix the problem and then how to stop it from ever happening again.
Here's the crazy bit, and no one is going to believe it; The was a very small company owned by a staunch conservative, Southern Baptist family. 1 of 4-5 employees were related, but you would never know because they didn't address one another by family connection, only by first name. Best job I ever had, grew my IT knowledge more in 5-years than in the other 20-years put together. And not a soul asked me to go to church or if I even believed. Don't even know where they went.
This is the same generation that gave us ‘participation trophies’ so their feelings and their kids’ feelings didn’t ‘get hurt’.
I’m not quite sure where this plague of ‘treat my feelings with kid gloves, otherwise I might die’ got started, but we really need to do something about it.
I literally fired people for this in my IT career. Intolerable.
Just commented on a company I worked at like that!
https://old.lemmy.world/comment/16298141
President stopped by my office when I was the new (only) IT guy:
"You might make mistakes... OK, you're going to make mistakes. Don't try to lie, prevaricate, dodge blame or pass it onto someone else. That's about the only way to get fired around here. Come to me, tell me exactly what happened and we'll fix it and find a way to never let it happen again."
And that's how it really was. Came up with some slick IT solutions to block people from making mistakes, all while not doing the heavy-handed, restrictive IT bullshit.
Funny how many such people are Republicans.
The problem with this is that the rationale they give isn't "wrong". The US has received imports through the islands and the article gives details on why that happens.
While all of this is dumb, those points will make sense to conservative voters.
I think you're mistaking "conservatives and centrists" for "American government"
Who is controlling the American government right now?
the leopard seals.
Up next: what do you mean I can’t fire the BBC?
As an aside, I’ve been told directly to my face in meat space that the BBC isn’t trustworthy and I should stick to our news sources.
That is almost what they are doing... The US embassy have been sending out letters asking all kinds of places in like Europe and Austrailia that they should follow Trumps executive orders. So I mean... Yeah. Maybe BBC also have gotten some letters.
I mean it's definitely conservative dog water, but our sources aren't better
tl;dr: They're claiming that it was to "prevent countries with tariffs from shipping through there to avoid tariffs."
The United States alleged the islands exported more goods to the United States than they imported, an allegation that appeared to be calculated from incorrect trade data. An analysis of U.S. import data and shipping records by The Guardian indicated some shipments were incorrectly labeled as coming from the remote islands instead of their correct countries of origin. According to export data from the World Bank, the US imported US$1.4m (A$2.23m) of products from Heard Island and McDonald Islands in 2022, nearly all of which was "machinery and electrical" imports.[39]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands
Great, now they simply have to claim their shipments came from Russia and they'll be exempt.
Hope you know Russian!
... Why were we allowing items into the country that were shipped through an uninhabited island to begin with? Like, that should be the red flag... They should treat it like losing your parking garage ticket, you pay the top rate.
**... some shipments were incorrectly labeled as coming from the remote islands instead of their correct countries of origin. **
I even put it in bold.
Yeah...I saw that. Hence my comment. Why would they allow that in? Even if it was labeled as that, they could do like I said in my comment and slap the highest tariff available on it - if that were the actual goal, and not an obvious lie to cover up their ineptitude.
I agree, it's insane that customs ever accepted a fictional port on uninhabited islands as a point of origin in the first place. That's the loophole they should close. It does appear that that's a thing that did actually happen though, so it's not a complete fabrication. I'd say customs should have been authorized to confiscate any such good until a non-fictional provinence was proven.
LOL, $1.4 large. My Lowe's cranks that much out in a week or two. Imagine how insignificant a single big-box store is in the grand scheme of the American economy. If that store fell into a literal black hole it would barely disrupt the local economy in this little town.
But by god we're going to stop this tariff avoidance!
Wasn't Russia left off the list? hmmm
Those penguins know what they did
Those little tuxedo-wearing bastards just want to steal your jorb!
DEY TERK ER JEEERRRBS
those damn penguins. Damn freeloaders.
Look, obviously Trump’s a moron. But don’t go pretending that corporate leeches wouldn’t route their funds through some penguins for tax avoidance. They would totally do that.
Do you believe all of those tech giants were actually based in Ireland?
Yeah, but it would probably make more sense to just have like a universal 10 percent default rate for "other" as a category.
That's what those filthy penguins get for cutting off our supply of tuxedos.
I feel like this is really just a distraction. When you have a base of 10%, then it gets applied to dumb stuff like this. That should be a given. Let's focus on the other wild shit that is happening.
What's the tariff on something made in international waters?