Meet your immigrant neighbors, they're hitting them first. Help them organize and arm themselves. When the gestapo comes...fight.
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Over the past 3 months, i have disributed over 1500 red cards. los tarjetas rojas. They explain immigrant rights and what to do if ice shows up. https://www.ilrc.org/red-cards-tarjetas-rojas
In a normal world, thats enough to help protect them. Its a little step i know, but its something i could do to help.
Now it is a lie and i mislead my neighbors and friends. They are not safe.
Next step?
Go back. Amend your card with new accurate information. Distribute it. Offer to help yet again with whatever they need.. Eat your pride and tell them you were wrong. Show them you mean it and protect yourself from the gestapo because you are now a target as well. Suggest they arm themselves and fight back and the reasons why so they can make an informed choice on how they personally wish to protect themselves now that they have this new information.
People are good. They will see you are trying your best with what you have. You are doing good too. Don't be discouraged. This is the most positive thing I have heard from an American in days even though you feel defeated. Give em hell!
I think you dont understand. To rewrite that card would be a big red buisiness card that says "you are fucked".
Thats it.
Arm yourselves and the people being hunted? Are you fucking kidding? Thats literal ammunition to the opposition. If you had your way, a bunch of illegal immigrants now are using illegal guns to shoot americans.
Your advice legitimizes the "invasion" of the other. It does the opposite of what you want. Your solution galvanizes the right to point and say "see, they are all murderous criminals" get them.
For fucks sake think for a moment. This is the absolute dumbest take ive ever seen.
You are ruled by a dictator. You have not done anything to change that. These people have a right as humans to defend themselves against the tyranny they face. Just like I as a Canadian have a right to defend my country against the repeated threats of annexation from your regime.
Fuck you for taking their choice away. You have no right. You have done nothing for them as a nation or a people and now you have enshrined a dictator that is shipping them off to death camps. You'd like them to just lie down and take your bullshit cause they're sub human or foreigners, perhaps you use the term illegals? Put your life on the line for them non violently then with all your talk. Go hang in the communities affected and stop the kidnappings with your signs and cards.
All talk no action down there. A nation of defeatists whining about how terrible people are treated in their communities from the fucking couch.
I get the distinct impression that you handed these cards out on a street corner and under wiper blades and never actually spoke to any of those people or you would actually care. Not movie star "care'. You had me going there for a minute. I honestly thought you gave a shit.
I also don't know exactly what the next step is.
Obviously, protesting and civil disobedience.
Looking at historical precedents, I also think targeted sabotage should be part of it. Nothing like the Reichstag fire or the assassination of Ernst vom Rath that would fuel a civil war.
In WW2, our resistance performed targeted sabotage on (for example) rail lines, pipelines and electrical networks that did not hurt anyone, but which did weaken the German war effort.
One big disadvantage compared to WW2 is the massive surveillance state.
During slavery there was also the underground railroad. I would definitely set up a system like that to bring targeted activists to Canada. You really don't want to lose your intelligentsia. Let them provide resistance from Canada.
I hope others have better ideas on effective tactics though.
Take out the cameras obvs
The judge literally said they didn't have the authority to release him:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800
"After inspecting his birth certificate, Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans said during the hearing that “this is indeed an authentic document,” but that she did not have jurisdiction beyond finding no probable cause for the charge."
To which I'd think the correct reply should have been "If you don't have the authority to release him, then what's your authority to detain him?"
Nobody bothered asking that question. "He's a US Citizen, here's his birth certificate, by what authority are you detaining him?"
The issue is that it was a county judge. A county judge doesn't have the authority to overrule ICE even when they are illegally detaining a US citizen under a law that has already been blocked by another judge. Who knew?
ICE was requesting the judge detain him, which was apparently beyond their authority. The correct answer would have been to tell ICE "I'm sorry, we don't have the authority to do that."
It was ICE detaining him not the judge. The authority for ICE to detain him over rode the judges ability to release him
ICE was requesting the judge detain him, which was apparently beyond their authority. The correct answer would have been to tell ICE "I'm sorry, we don't have the authority to do that."
They're gonna do this en masse right before the next election. Before it's over, we'll see ICE kidnapping people who are in line to vote. After all, they can clear up any "mistakes" after they've prevented people from voting.
Sounds like there's going to be a lot of bodies in line (and on the ground) during voting.
We're so fucked
Arm yourselves.
And for the love of god, train. Get classes if you can.
And trauma kits. Lots of trauma kits and trauma first aid training.
I agree this is total fuckery, but at least the dude was released hours later.
Says they can hold for 48 hours for DHS to take them into custody. He was released Thursday evening but I dont see when he was arrested. If it was Tuesday evening then the only reason he was released was because DHS didn’t take him into custody which implies they realized they couldn’t and didn’t even attempt to get him released sooner or punishing him with a 48 hour imprisonment was the whole point. What’s to stop them from imprisoning any citizen for 2 days for whatever reason.
You're not wrong, but in this specific case he was in ICE custody for less than 12 hours.
We’re so lucky that guy in El Salvador isn’t dead. I’d expect a response of riots, and an armed, violent response to any ICE activity, since getting nabbed by them is a high likelihood of death even if innocent and legal.
What did the last round of riots get you?
Oh Judge Riggans, you ain't white either. You think you're safe but you're far from it.