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ICE Can Now Enter Your Home Without a Warrant to Look for Migrants, DOJ Memo Says (dailyboulder.com)
submitted 3 weeks ago by jeena@piefed.jeena.net to c/usauthoritarianism@lemmy.world
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It reminds me of the one scene in Inglorious Bastards:

"You are sheltering enemies of the state, are you not?"

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 84 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's particularly cynically amusing when Trump and the Republicans apoarently go out of their way to grant themselves abuses of power directly reminiscent of the Nazis.

And still the people who most pride themselves on their patriotism line right up to cheer it on.

This is the era of the angry, stupid American. and their King Donald.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the era of American fascism, which is identical to Hitlers nazism in every way that matters.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

It's kinda weird that when fascists took America they would be totally cucked to Israel. History gets weirder and weirder.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 66 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah... No they fucking can't. And a lot of people (with guns) know that, and feel very strongly about that fact

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All these stories of plainclothes agents in unmarked vans and I'm just waiting for the article.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's been my thought as well... It's only a matter of time before they come across an actual gang member or 2A enthusiast and someone catches some lead.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly, I'm not saying I want it to happen, but maybe then they'd at least reconsider their methodology.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If a bunch of people with weapons come breaking into my house then they'd better hope they can get to me faster than the 3 seconds it takes to open the gun safe or someone is going to get a face full of 00 buckshot.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

Well... You know, practice. If your first, second, or third shot is slow, you get got

Not to say you aren't practicing, just a friendly reminder

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 53 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I wonder, if you're not harboring any immigrants and ICE is breaking open your door because they suspect you do, is it morally OK to start shooting to defend your home? How would you even know it's not a burglar?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

At this point, I think it's okay to start shooting even if you know it's ICE. Corrupt secret police that can't get a warrant fall into the home invasion category.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 weeks ago

Then who's to say that a group of thieves just put on some gear wear a bunch of ICE logos on their shirt and break down your door, tell you you can't do anything about it and rob you blind?

There's a reason why there are complicated rules of law ... because if you remove the most basic laws, everyone can just start abusing them.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's morally okay to start shooting either way

[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

By their own logic, I think itsokaytoshootthem if you suspect they might break into your house.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 25 points 3 weeks ago

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Over my dead body if that's what it takes. We're about to house a young woman from Spain on a J-1 visa. They will not be stepping foot into my home to harass her.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Your proposal is acceptable to them.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay then, now I'll be looking into getting those guns I've heard so much about.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

stay away from SIG. the P320 has misfire problems and is known to go off while holstered.

when SIG was forced to make a public response, they went full MAGA and blamed "the left" for creating conspiracies against them instead of addressing the actual problem.

1000001474

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, thanks.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Sincerely, if you have questions and no local resource you’re comfortable with, hit me up.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

ICE gestapo playbook:

  1. hey look, I see someone that’s an “alien enemy”
  2. what due process?
  3. bag em
  4. rinse and repeat
[–] nick@midwest.social 22 points 3 weeks ago

They can certainly try, Ohio has Ohio Self-Defense Law (Section 2903.04) and something tells me ice isn’t big on showing badges.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Based on my memos you can shoot a dumb bitch that came in your house without a warrant straight in the face.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

She can shove that memo up her cunt. Memo are not laws.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Try it, cunts.

[–] Frost752@crazypeople.online 12 points 3 weeks ago

ICE can also be shot, just saying.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

... Fourth Amendment..?

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Cut out in half, and you’re left with 2.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck no

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

To paraphrase:

"Donald Trump has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Reading "Alien Enemy" so many times is really enforces the fact that we should revolt.

[–] LarryLurkman@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Colorado's 'Make My Day' law says otherwise.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Constitution disagrees!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

~~1st~~

~~4th~~

~~5th~~

~~6th~~

~~8th~~

~~14th~~

... ~~3rd~~?

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

They enter without a warrant or even a no knock with one I'm pretty sure I'll put a bullet into one of em.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

1000009683

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

I actually thought about replacing it with SRA instead of just erasing it lol

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Man... I'm in a deep red state and my chapter just has 0 ability to answer any sort of contact attempt.

Hard to get organized when the organization doesn't give assistance.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lol, NRA - "We are living in dark times, you must defend your family"

People rise up against the government with their corporate bought guns.

NRA - "Not like that!"

What a pathetic cult.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

I woke up this morning thinking about going to the gym.

Now the exercise I’m looking into is my 2A.