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Ukraine, Europe's ceasefire proposal includes US security guarantees, no recognition of Crimea (kyivindependent.com)

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they give Russia Crimea they will be admitting countries are allowed to take land by force.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

If they give Russia any land...

[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why include US security guarantees, does a guarantee from Trump count for anything?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 15 points 1 month ago

I suspect that, because they aren’t idiots like Trump is, they’re including some stuff which is perfectly fair to ask for but which they can compromise away in the course of negotiation and still arrive at something they can live with.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Guys, just give them ~~The Sudetenland~~ Crimea and this will all be over!