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Hi just a heads up. Check out this post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/37758799

It got so many upvotes in a such a short time I checked out its activity from an mbin instance. And most of these upvotes are coming from sh.itjust.works accounts which were all created 2 months ago, most on 2/16, and have never posted/commented. There was a similar post in the lemmy.world/c/world community linking to the same website and having a similarly high number of upvotes within minutes, but that post seems to be gone now.

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 91 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes that does look like vote manipulation. Thank you for notifying us. Those accounts will be banned.

[–] henfredemars 39 points 2 weeks ago

I’m glad that this is something that Lemmy admins appear to actually care about and have the capability to investigate.

Awesome!

Is this something that we could have a script for? I imagine this isn't the last time this will happen.

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago

good fucking catch

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank goodness for the open platform that Lemmy is. It’s nice knowing that these things can be caught so easily.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Though it’s a bit of a confirmation bias. Only the ones we caught are those we know about.

I won’t detail how, but it would be pretty trivially easy to make it much harder to catch. This is just utter laziness on behalf of the vote manipulators.

I think a statistical analysis that looks at what accounts nearly only upvote the same comments or posts as another account would probably be the DIY gold standard for catching vote manipulation on the lemmyverse.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

People only really need to manipulate new posts with a small handful of initial upvotes to get the ball rolling usually yeah.

[–] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

thanks for flagging this, i just banned 346 accounts involved in this scheme from lemmy.world :|

(unbanned at the time of creating the report) accounts posting links to the same domain:

  • 4x sh.itjust.works
  • 2x ani.social
  • 1x thelemmy.club
  • 1x lemmy.ca

accounts i'm highly confident were involved in vote manipulation here:

  • 172x sh.itjust.works
  • 22x ttrpg.network
  • 21x lemmings.world
  • 20x discuss.online (banned by me)
  • 19x lemmy.wtf
  • 18x lemmy.myserv.one
  • 18x leminal.space
  • 18x ani.social
  • 16x endlesstalk.org
  • 7x lemmy.ca
  • 4x lemy.lol
  • 1x toast.ooo
  • 1x startrek.website
  • 1x lemm.ee
[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for taking action! That's a pretty crazy number of accounts to set up for what appears like promoting a few bland articles from a bland AI-generated website.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The bot creators were probably just testing the waters to make sure it works. I've been a victim of vote-manipulation bots; they downvote attacked me. So glad to see people are trying to get a handle on this.

[–] chrisbit@leminal.space 9 points 2 weeks ago

Really appreciate the effort that went into compiling this. Those leminal.space accounts have been banned.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow that looks productive. I’m assuming you can’t share the methodology for linking these accounts to help combat this stuff but I’m very curious if that isn’t an issue.

[–] MrKaplan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

essentially start by identifying the accounts posting links to the domain in question, then analyze the voting behavior of the accounts upvoting these posts. you can start by sorting out accounts that have legitimate activity and then narrow it down further and find common patterns that only apply to these accounts.

most of them were also created in similar time frames.

edit:

to extend on this, once you have something to go on with it's fairly easy. the hard part is finding something that applies in a more generic way to identify this happening before someone else discovers unusual voting patterns and reports them.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

then analyze the voting behavior of the accounts

How do you do that? I'm noticing much more downvoting bots lately.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks for this! I am noticing more and more vote manipulation bots on Lemmy. Annoying af, so you're awesome for researching that!

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Good catch. I linked this post in the comments of that other post you linked, and it looks like the moderators have since removed the post entirely.

There was another one linking out to that same site (maybe the other post you saw as well) which I recall had an extremely misleading clickbait-y headline. It also seems to have been removed, so at least mods are staying on top of it.

Does Lemmy have the ability to automatically block/remove posts leading to certain domains? Seems to be a common thread of these accounts trying to promote this one "news" site. Though I don't imagine this sort of thing will stop at one site.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Was that the one about Biden lying?

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good catch. I just checked the posts votes, there's an insanely huge amount of SJW users, all accounts created on 7, or 3 months ago. Completely empty accounts, too...

Edit:

Cickbait title. Unable to verify reliability of source. News organizations should have a verifiable presence outside of their website such as a physical address, Wikipedia entry, etc. Please share from a reliable news source.

Got removed by mod. Odd but i still have the username anyway.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, I want to read the propaganda!

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I kind of do too… anyone have a link to what it was before it was deleted? I am curious.

@admins thank you for squashing this ❤️

[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It was just a random site with some news articles. Nothing objectionable content-wise really. Only the remarkable number of upvotes in a very short time for two posts going to the same random site stood out to me.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 2 weeks ago

Got it. So just trying to spam in favor of their pet project. Ty