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Western countries have for too long acquiesced to the Indian government’s abuses

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[–] snipgan@kbin.social 118 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Regardless if the guy deserved it or not, killing them in a country you are supposed to be on good terms with is not the way to go about it.

At this point India is barely even trying to hide it.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 81 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also, the guy in question was a Canadian citizen.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's interesting is that India has been claiming the guy is a terrorist for years, but never really gave specific examples of what made him a terrorist other than his spouting separatist beliefs (which maybe is enough in India to arrest someone?)

But they also don't seem to have bothered to even try to extradite him, which seems telling in itself.

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

Not only that, but Canada has proven its firm hand on this. When China went apeshit after Meng Wanzhou's arrest in Canada to extradite her to the USA, Canada stuck to its guns. Even after two Canadians were taken hostage by the Chinese government in a retaliatory arrest, Meng stayed under arrest with her extradition going forward, while the rest of the world (including Modi's India) politely looked the other way rather than angering China.

India cannot possibly claim they couldn't have gotten results from Canada if they'd gone through the legal system.

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's too early to confirm who did it, but it looks like it just happened again:

https://lemmy.ca/post/5829102

An alleged (edit: alleged by India) Khalistani terrorist was just murdered in his home in Winnepeg.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And all the Indian news outlets are claiming the guy was a gangster and that this was a gang-related shooting. Meanwhile the local Winnipeg police are just like "Uh, we have no evidence on that as of yet and have made no statements about that, where the frick are you getting this claim from?"

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[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

India's getting blatant and nobody cares because of China.

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[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 96 points 2 years ago (3 children)

never previously in the friendly and orderly West.

Well, started reading the article, got to this line and cringed.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It is a vague reference that they are following the route of China and Russia by ignoring and abusing the laws of western states.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh no, its a clear reference to the blind eye the west & the world has turned to the ongoing genocide of Muslims & Christians in India by Modi govt & the Hindu supremacist thugs it supports.

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[–] random_prime@lemmy.ml 75 points 2 years ago (6 children)

As an Indian I agree. But I need to see conclusive proof first. I don't want to see my country degrades itself to the same level as CIA / NSA or Mossad. If we did something wrong there should be adequate consequences.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

The thing is we're scared of China and you're the only developing country of over a billion left, on top of your ideological and language similarities with us. Even Trudeau is treading as lightly as he can given the situation.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

If the west is scared of China, then India's PM Modi is terrified of them. In June 2020, When China invaded India in Galwan and beat our 20 soldiers to death, Modi publicly state that nothing happened in Galwan. Since then he has been unable to take China's name, even when China built an entire village with paved roads in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.
The Modi govt that rules India is ideologically fascist dictatorial, majoritarian, and violently Hindu supremacist. If that is also your country's ideological stance then we do have a lot in common.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago

Maybe I should have said historical ideological similarities. India has been a democracy, which makes you seem much more trustworthy than China. Democracy is having a hard time in many places right now, though.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Canadian sources say that, when pressed behind closed doors, no Indian official has denied the bombshell allegation at the core of this case — that there is evidence to suggest Indian government involvement in the assassination of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sikh-nijjar-india-canada-trudeau-modi-1.6974607

Our government has not released a single statement saying 'we didn't do it' AFAIK. Let us know if you find any.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What evidence do you want to see about a state-sponsored assassination? It's happened twice now and you think it's an accident?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-homicide-victim-wanted-india-1.6975772

Just yesterday.

[–] Rand0mA@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

That's hardly proof

Not saying it isn't true.. but from that alone nada. someone posting something on twitter and then someone is murdered... must be government?!

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[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago

India's Modi govt that practices domestic terrorism on its own citizens within india, wants to make India known as a terrorist state in the global stage.

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (7 children)

modi isnt humble and so isnt his government. modis shitty support for russia is wrong. he has already lost touch with reality. i think the image of india in the west is falling rapidly, but i am sure modiist know why everyone else is wrong. time to rename the country. it is no longer happy nice india, bad bahRAT.

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[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If Canada follows the 9/11 protocol, they would invade pakistan

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago

Nah, too close to India. Invade Iran on bullshit pretenses that have a tenuous connection with the situation even taken at face value.

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[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is there any evidence that India ordered the assassination?

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If there is, it won't be shared currently due to it being an ongoing investigation.

But something must be there if the Canadian government is making this statement instead of ignoring it. Sounds like the media was going to push the story anyway, but they got ahead of it.

The USA already said they aren't distancing themselves from it and working with Canada with this.

We will see how things turn out, but things are pointing to more than likely India did something. Especially with the swarm of comments/bots pulling the whole "well he deserved it" and "hypocrites" all over.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Canada and its closest allies (US, UK, etc.) have absolutely every reason to not want to stir the pot with India, considering India is considered critical in countering China in Asia. It'd be insane to pull a stunt like this unless they actually have damning evidence. I guess we'll all see what comes of this with time, but I'm strongly inclined to believe Canada for now.

That and India's response has basically been bald-faced whataboutism and "bUt He WaS a TeRrOriSt". Doesn't exactly endear me to believing India had nothing to do with this.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah the propaganda is definitely out. I think I read some articles claiming Canada is a hotbed for extremism according to some Indian officials?

I'm like, that's not a strong denial of what's going on.

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