Just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it'll fix everything bro. Bro, just one more lane. Please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro c’mon just give me one more lane i promise bro, bro bro please! Just need one more lane
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Fact: 99% of city planners quit one lane before they fix traffic
Cities hate it when planners do this one simple trick...
Average lane-brainer argument
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Although it is good that they added riding bicycle lanes I doubt that is the only reason for the lowering of pollution.
Not only do we have electric and hybrid cars, due to euro standard combustion engines have become a lot cleaner during the same span of time. Plus public transport has also become a lot better during that time.
Yeah, car restriction is the key. Then you must plan for people who needs to move. Cars don't belong to the city, only for leisure trips outside.
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It's good that you included the source because without a scale this meant fuck all.
Thank you. I was about to ask for the same thing.
This graph is HIGHLY misleading as it doesn't include the time in 2019 when Notre Dame's pollution was much higher for a brief period of time.
I was confused for a moment.
Click to see the reason why Notre Dame had much higher pollution for brief period of time in 2019.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_fire
Why not just link the wiki without all the extra fluff?
I wanted to give people a chance at remembering the reference before seeing the answer. The URL gives the answer.
They were just explaining what the link goes to.
spoiler hide a link with contextKinda weird to
in a spoiler
(if you ask me)
Woah, woah, keep it down lads. There's Americans around who can't handle this kind of information!
I’m an American who wants European style cities and public transport because it’s actually better for drivers, too.
Germany has zero speed limit on some highways because of this.
Coming back from some time in Europe it's imposible to unsee how good we could have it.
There's a perfect highway near me begging to have no speed limit. Straight, flat, no major cities.
But knowing how things would go someone would try to break the sound barrier in a vehicle that was not up for it and die. Then a ton of knee jerk legislation and regulation would make things worse for everyone.
They installed efficiency modules to reduce biter expansion?
And it is going to get even better: https://www.dw.com/en/france-paris-to-increase-car-free-zones-after-referendum/a-72019387
That sounds nice but oof 4% turnout.
Yeah that is very low, but i don’t know what is normal in those elections.
Thank you
There's no legend. This is a worthless image
I posted this somewhere in the comments already, but copy pasting it to be helpful:.
Op cut it out for some reason, but it is in the linked article. Here is a screenshot of the 'y-axis':
Legend? This is an image of Paris transforming from an active volcano into a radioactive site.
All the bikes run on uranium.
Also no control group to determine whether this was due to bike lanes like the post title claims
The red parts are pollution.
Keep seeing this picture but no control group. Give me the same data for a French city other than Paris to understand whether this is about local policy change or about emissions standards and the move to electric cars.
Googling tells me DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) was required in 2015 in Europe. Other posters have said this graphic is NO2, which is what DEF reduces.
This is the same thing as a graph where the y-axis doesn't start at zero.
Op cut it out for some reason, but it is in the linked article. Here is a screenshot of the 'y-axis':
Oh wow, not even co2
c'est magnifique.
How much of this was dieselgate and DEF fluid?
DEF: Googling say DEF was implemented in 2015 in Europe. Other posters have clarified the map shows NO2, which DEF reduces by "up to 90%"
Dieselgate: Also 2015. "On 29 September 2015, Volkswagen announced plans to refit up to 11 million affected vehicles, fitted with Volkswagen's EA 189 diesel engines". Affected cars emitted 40x the legal NOx levels. It also accelerated EV offerings. Also increased testing and scrutiny.
Yeah I'm leaning more towards this being dieselgate and DEF.
Worst thing about this is that pollution is still pretty bad in Paris, they've come pretty far but there's still a lot of progress to be made there
The red areas doesn't indicate temperature .... it indicates thrown away cigarette butts
Cars also got more environmental. I'm/!not saying bike lanes are bad. But this might be a bit biased.
Thank jeebus a few 1000 kilos of steel and (micro)plastic, replaced every year with an even larger pile of resources, is not execactly environmentally friendly
If someone draws a conclusion from the facts it could be biased, but this is just merely data. You could say that it is framing a certain set of results, (since it doesn't say anything about how pleasant a trip by car is compared to a trip by bicycle for example), but the collection data seems to done perfectly neutral.
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