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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Company doesn’t want to pay artists. Fify

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Possibly. But there are valid uses of ai. Uses that streamline the process, take away some of the more tedious bits. Allow the artist to create more, easier. But you're also not wrong to imply that for a corporation that will always be the exception and not the rule

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck being efficient all the time. That’s such a fucking capitalist mindset. That’s the excuse use by the people pushing this slop technology into every aspect of life. It’s designed to remove people from art and to save companies money by removing the human cost.

These “valid uses of Ai” are not valid if they could have just paid someone to do the work.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Then I hope to see you out in the next few days trimming the grass with tweezers. So we can all get a good chuckle. Take a lesson from the luddites. They didn't destroy the Looms because they hated the looms. They destroyed the Looms because the owners sought to cut them out.

A tool is simply a tool. It isn't good or bad. It's fashy Tech Bros out for a quick buck that make it bad. Be mad at them. Not the tools. AI isn't going to make it impossible or undesirable for us to create as we always have. Just the fash.

addendum Your value as a human shouldn't be how useful your art is to someone else. Your art is valuable even if you're the only one that appreciates it. And only fascists and other authoritarians will impeded your ability to create it. I for one welcome the day we see creations realized that couldn't/wouldn't have been realized other ways. Animations etc accelerated with better AI tweening algorithms etc. Allowing us to see truly unique even singular visions we wouldn't have seen otherwise for example. Fuck the slop.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Japan is speedrunning destroying a world renowned industry. The scandals about corporations mistreating artists are piling up at this point. A true shame but what else do we expect from late stage capitalism?

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s not just Japan. It’s all corporations.

This is a collective effort from the owning class to remove humans from art and to make it purely business.

Like the loom example. They didn’t destroy fabric weaving, they just outsourced it to child labourers in third world countries. That what Ai is going to do with all human creations.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Of course it's not just Japan but this is about Anime. It's the best 2D animation the world has to offer right now so the loss in quality will be felt. It's also not just about AI. The corporate space simply does not value creative work other than finding creative ways to raise quarterly profits and that has become increasingly obvious in Japan were many of us thought things would be at least a little different. Nope. Same shit as Disney, just delayed slightly.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only way this wouldn't be supremely disappointing would be if they were keeping all staff and only introducing this for lower-importance sequences to reduce the famously insane workload. But yeah, I know I'm only kidding myself to even entertain that idea.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It can be great for filling in frames. Much easier to animate something at like 5-10 frames per second or less and use AI to smooth it out by filling in the gaps.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Except frame interpolation like that typically looks terrible even with modern algorithms.

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Toei Animation said in some cases, the time spent on a background was reduced to one-sixth of its normal time.

How is creator compensation changing as a result of the introduction of AI?

Are they being paid one-sixth less? Are they working one-sixth less?

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

One sixth of the people will be working on a project that usually requires a six times greater workforce

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

That’s like……anti-anime

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Personally I don't see this as any different than anime animators using 3D renders or other CGI to relax their workload. And just like those cases there will be some anime where there you can barely tell there's any CG, and some where it's blatant and hastily done. Maybe even some that use 100% AI. This change is inevitable, because it already happened once, and I bet the outrage looked the same back then. "They're using computers instead of paying animators? Those cheap bastards, they have no respect for the art of anime."

I just hope they don't cut salaries.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

consider fans already used AI for dbz fanfiction already.

[–] abcdqfr@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uhh huh. And cgi ruined all of anime at it's inception. Every last one. Let them feel things out. They'll swim or sink with the new floaties.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Haven't watched anything Orange or Ufotable have put out have you?