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[โ€“] Quik 21 points 1 week ago

Once again, Brussels acting a bit too slow for my taste, but ofc good nevertheless

[โ€“] Fontasia@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago

Operation stapler?

[โ€“] runtime@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Researchers will be paid the same as in the US right?

Until we fix our compensation problem and fractured financial markets weโ€™re just gonna get screwed by the US over the long run. We need to act and demand higher pay.

[โ€“] jonne 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can have a better life with way lower renumeration in Europe, just by virtue of health care expenditure alone.

[โ€“] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago

And proper summer vacations too. Oh, and unions, employee rights etc.

[โ€“] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

True, but when the salaries in the US are double or tripple that in Europe it just doesn't work out. American labs are also better equipped on average. No way Europe can compete with the US for scientific talent. The money is just not there. Our only hope is that the US voluntarily exits the competition, which seems to be what's happening.

[โ€“] jonne 6 points 1 week ago

That's exactly what DOGE has done, they're wrecking entire scientific fields and they changed the percentage of the money that can actually go to those nice labs for the things that didn't get cut.

[โ€“] madjo@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cost of living is better here too. And you wonโ€™t get censored much if you work with transgenic mice and such.

[โ€“] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The US is trying to censor European research.

[โ€“] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mate, Europe has billions of scientific funding (the ERC has a budget of around 16 billion, for starters). They're literally the ones who developed the first two Covid vaccines. What on earth are you on about.

[โ€“] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

The US spends 80% more on R&D than the EU, while having 100 million less people. Itโ€™s just not close. The first step to changing something is to understand it. Huffing on copium helps no one.

[โ€“] starlinguk@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pay doesn't matter. Cost of living matters.