Can they start building affordable housing and go around the manipulated housing market?
this post was submitted on 22 May 2025
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That is for sharing! I'm up to see what I can do on the UWS (signed up) but maybe that's too far
This is fucking awesome
Right?
Cue lawsuits from ISPs in 3, 2, 1...
Time to go cyberpunk. Hidden routers using stolen electricity.
I’m shocked this is going through. I gotta imagine at least Tennessee will block it. They’re super pro-big isp.
Okay, going off the title to start with you're building a WiFi network, that's very cool (I'm guessing it's a mesh network), but will you connect it to the Internet too?
That'd be more of a headline if so, then just building a WiFi network.
Website literally has mesh in the name, no need to guess. Then would you believe it, but if you open the site it tells you more information and mentions the internet several times.
My friend has been using NYCmesh for a couple years now. He has nothing. It positive things to say about it.
I hope they are aware of https://freifunk.net/ and don't start from scratch completely. They've been doing that kinda stuff for over a decade and have developed a modified OpenWRT version and maintain lists of compatible routers
NYC Mesh has been around for more than a decade. I assume they talked to other similar projects when building it.
Ah nice! :D Yeeeah just thought it'd be a shame to not utilize existing work that has been done on OpenWRT. But then again, it's highly unlikely that actors from similar groups haven't met at hacker conferences, GitHub repos, etc.
I see freifunk networks more rarely nowadays. They also are notoriously slow. Usually the mobile phone network is faster, even in Germany.
Yeeah it kind of fizzled out, that's true. In larger cities it used to be useful sometimes because of abysmal cell coverage and shady public WiFi. That has improved a lot since then, so yeah nowadays it can't hold a candle to 4G/5G mobile data.
I am old enough and geek enough to be bothered by the use of the word "WiFi" instead of the Internet or just network.
It's only WiFi if you connect the wireless router at the end.
Edit: just noticed mention of the "antenna at the roof" on the page, but I still don't think it's WiFi, "WiFi" is a name of the technology that allows wireless access by multiple devices. I think it's rather radio communication between the router and the access point. They basically use radio waves instead of the cable, it was often used in rural areas in my country, where putting cables would be too expensive.
But.. It is P2P WiFi...
WiFi is a specific protocol, IEEE 802.11 (with a lower case letter at the end for the version). There have long been hobbyist and commercial methods for using it with point-to-point links. There are some other wireless methods for this, like LoRa/Meshtastc, but they tend to be slower and less developed. Everyone prefers using WiFi.
So, yes, they are using WiFi in a point-to-point way. The antenna is directional to give it (potentially) several miles of range.
Setup some multi km Wi-Fi bridges before, that was fun.
Same here and when people refer to the PC tower as the CPU
I didn't know that's even a thing.
That I cut a bit of slack for, because prior to the minicomputer let alone the microcomputer, the CPU would likely have been a large component like the whole system is for a desktop PC.
It would seem a lot of people think Wi-Fi is internet. I've heard someone call it "Wi-Fi with exclamation mark" when without internet access.
My eldest when her internet want working confidently told me her computer couldn't connect to the globe
🤦
Language is so weird these days...
Everything is "app" nowaways
A .exe install on windows is "app"
A reddit account is "app"
Buying a phone plan and inserting a sim card into a phone is "activation" of a phone
Lol
Its a windows program or software
Reddit is not an "app", its a platform.
You're not "activating" your phone, your phone is already usable, all you did was purchase a voice/data plan and inserted a sim card. "Activation" is a apple internet lock thing, totally separate.
You don't know what the word "application" is lol
I'm old enough and nerd enough to be slightly peeved that "community built" isn't hyphenated ("community-built").
For a municipal wireless network, I'm not too bothered with how OP describes it if it's accessed through Wi-Fi.
Does anyone know what other cities are building similar networks? Or how to get started doing it in your city?
I reached out to the NYC mesh folks and they are going to walk me through it. It seems like a lot of work. But the more people who can get to help. The stronger it becomes.
KPUD in Kitsap County, WA does something similar: https://www.kpud.org/fiber-internet/free-public-wi-fi/
They also have very affordable public fiber.
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I'm so down for this, especially in condominiums. The challenge is navigating the regulators since they're often staffed with loyalists to the big ISPs.
I wish I had that near me, but unfortunately I don't live in New York (United States), I live in New York (United States).
ARGH PLACENAMES
The domain has a c in it
I hadn't gotten the idea from the domain name but admittedly the comment wasn't very good regardless
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