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Police said a suspect was in custody after the shooting near the Capital Jewish Museum

A suspect is in custody after shooting dead two Israeli embassy staff outside a Jewish museum in Washington on Wednesday night.

The gunman, named by police as Elias Rodriguez, 30, of Chicago, approached a group of four people leaving an event at the Capital Jewish Museum and opened fire, killing Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.

Metropolitan police chief Pamela Smith said the shooter had been pacing outside the museum, which is steps away from the FBI’s field office, before the shooting.

After killing the pair, who officials said were a couple, he walked inside, where event security detained him. The suspect yelled: “Free, free Palestine,” after he was arrested, police said.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It sucks that more people died. It also sucks that I feel so.....indifferent about this one.

How many Israelis have to die before they stop killing Palestinians? What's two lives compared to the hundreds ended daily in Gaza? It's hard to be sad.

These people probably weren't evil. At worst, they were complicit after being fed a lifetime of propaganda. And nothing will change because of this so there's no silver lining. It's hard to be happy.

If I feel anything, it's dread at how the story will be spun. But even then...whatever happens isn't going to be the worse than what's already happening.

So it's hard to care at all. And that's the sad part for me.

[–] its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The government of Israel is evil.
These people worked for the embassy.

We can't condemn people in broad terms. That is what started this. Killing someone because of their nationally, race, or job, is wrong. It's more senseless killing, adding to the hundreds of Palestinians killed.

Guard yourself against seeing individuals as the enemy, when their only sin is where they were born.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

Killing someone because of their nationally, race, or job, is wrong.

One of these things is not like the others.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

That's exact what I'm trying to say - they didn't deserve to die and nothing good will come from it.

I will admit I WAS happy about the UHC CEO because he was directly involved in the decisionmaking that led to suffering. But this one doesn't feel like vengeance - until I hear otherwise, these were just two people caught in the crossfire. Bullets should be flying at Netanyahu and his cronies, not embassy employees.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel makes Jewish people around the world less safe when it claimed it would do the opposite.

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[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

What I found pretty unsettling when I watched some excerpts from the news was the stark contrast in how the events are portrayed depending on who's getting murdered. Let me explain:

The media and officials insisted on humanizing the victim; notably mentioning the crushed family life he was building for himself ("He bought the ring and was engaged").

The problem is that the Palestinian children and families getting crushed in a genocide don't have the privilege to be treated as human, to be cared about or their dreams and aspiration considered. They are at best unfortunate victims and most of the time walking flesh that needs to be exterminated.

I find that so frustrating how the right or even the mainstream always portray themselves as the superior moral culture while enabling the worse mass extermination to happen, documented before them.

EDIT: they even talked about a "heinous" crime which felt so tone-deaf and laughable.

[–] LoveTrumpsHate@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

💯 the default assumption of the media is that these Israelis are relatable humans and this is a tragedy... But what is happening in Gaza is somehow morally ambiguous.

Maybe one could argue the sheer scale of the Gaza genocide makes it difficult for the media to humanize them, so they get reduced to just a number of fatalities with lots of digits. But if the media default was that the Palestinian lives had value they would look through the lives lost like those in 9-11 and tell their stories.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Philosophy Tube has a great video about this topic https://youtu.be/rLfzO7Sbdc4. At 27:20 she starts talking about who's life is worth grieving and who's is not, and how this is a government level topic. It hits the nail on the head about the differences in reporting two different people's deaths can have. At 33:45 they specifically talk about the 2008 Gaza war.

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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 60 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Genuinely awful for these two and their families, but the same can be said for ~53,000 dead Palestinians and the rest who are actively starving to death in a Israeli-made famine while aid rots onboard trucks across the border. Both acts are deliberate, and both were avoidable.

And while they were both working for the current extremists in power atm via the diplomatic service, they were a lot more moderate too:

Lischinsky “I’m an ardent believer in the vision that was outlined in the Abraham Accords and believe that expanding the circle of peace with our Arab neighbours and pursuing regional cooperation is in the best interest of the state of Israel and the Middle East as a whole. To this end, I advocate for interfaith dialogue and intercultural understanding.”

Milgrim organised visits and missions to Israel. She was also a volunteer at Tech2Peace, an advocacy group training young Palestinians and Israelis and promoting dialogue between them.

Tech2Peace said Milgrim was an active volunteer who “brought people together with empathy and purpose”.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 60 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean also.....

"In his final post on social media hours before the attack, Lischinsky had shared a post from the Israeli ambassador, Amir Weissbrod, accusing UN officials of engaging in “blood libel” over claims that 14,000 children faced starvation in Gaza."

Not saying they deserved any violence, but even once moderate Israelis have been driven pretty far right in the last couple years. Accusations of blood libel while the state is actively starving children doesn't exactly seem to be promoting any positive dialogue.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeeeesh, hadn’t seen that reporting…

It’s unbelievably disappointing to see over and over again that Israelis are broadly okay with the death and destruction in Gaza, when a little over a generation ago they were on the cusp of a genuine two-state solution. And now it’s an ethnostate that practices apartheid, and it’s okay because “Bibi keeps us safe”. Almost as if nothing else matters.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was always an Apartheid state - their own laws from the very start separate Israeli Citizenship from Israeli Nationality, with only Jews being allowed to have the last (in addition to the former) which has additional rights over mere Citizenship - and it had a Genocide already pretty near the time of its formation called the Nakba, only that was "just" displacement and a few murders rather than mass murdering hundreds of thousands of people.

It's just that for a while their Propaganda was very successful and they might have even be genuinelly considering merelly not taking over the rest of Palestine as giving back that which they had already stolen was never on the table, nor was the return of the Palestinians or a genuinelly equal society for both Jews and Non-Jews.

Israel was always shit since it's formation (which by the way involved them commiting terrorist attacks), it's just that now they've gone extreme Genocidal on their way to commiting a XXI Century version of the Holocaust.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Any attack against a Zionist is antisemitic"

So that means Isreal is a ethnostate?

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A genocidal apartheid ethno state.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Heartbreaking to see, but sadly it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. This war on Gaza is growing increasingly unpopular and people feel powerless to stop the ongoing genocide being conducted by Israel. I don't support attacks against random civilians but I'm not surprised somebody saw an opportunity to make a statement. These deaths are on Netanyahu along with the tens-of-thousands of Palestinians killed since the war started.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

It doesn't look like this was an "attack on random civilians." Out of all the people they could have killed, they killed people who work for the Israeli Embassy. They worked for the government doing the genocide.

Now did they support it? Who knows, but this shooter was not shooting up a movie theater. It was no more random than the United Healthcare CEO.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

not really random, this guy seems on par with the Israelis watching Gaza bombings from a cliff while eating popcorn. He also seems to have a full hard on for Trump, so for him all kinds of humanitarian crimes are probably ok as long as the president supports Israel State's genocide. So not really random, perhaps more on the same level as Luigi.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

After killing the pair, who officials said were a couple, he walked inside, where event security detained him. The suspect yelled: “Free, free Palestine,” after he was arrested, police said.

Certainly plausible...

But I don't trust the police or embassy officials from a country that's spent years committing a genocide.

They're not trustworthy witnesses.

If anyone is upset about that and wants it to change, you should go tell the cops and Israel to stop murdering people and then claiming it was self defense.

When you lie about shit constantly, people just stop taking your word on shit

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Video is all over the news of this happening. Suffice to say the conservatives/Israelis are now winning the propaganda war in the US with this event.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've been winning it for a long time because multiple governments around the world have outlawed dissent in a lot of different ways. This event isn't going to change anybody's opinions on the underlying conflict it's just going to make everyone dig in deeper.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It makes it more of an uphill battle. This will absolutely be used to justify further criminalizing pro-Palestine speech and public demonstrations.

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[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Bro, you're not going to stop a genocide by busting a cap in two nobodies half a world away.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

A woman who attended the event, Katie Kalisher, told CBS News that she encountered the alleged shooter right after hearing gunfire.

"Then this man comes in … but he was covered in rain and just looking really distressed and scared," Kalisher told "CBS Mornings." "We were comforting him because we thought that he was just somebody out in the street looking for a safe place to stay because he heard some gunshots."

She said she talked to him to try to help him relax. "I asked him, 'So, do you like the museum?' And he's kind of playing dumb with me," she said about the interaction. "He goes, 'Oh, what kind of museum is this?' I told him, 'It's a Jewish museum.' He asked, 'Do you think that's why they did this attack' … referring to the rounds that we heard."

She said she told him she didn't think so and asked if he was OK. Then, she said, "He reaches into his bag and pulls out a keffiyeh and says, 'I did it. I did it for Gaza.' And, just starts shouting, 'Free Palestine.'"

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I really wish the world would go back to peacetime

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago

Peace for whom? As far as I can tell since Nakba, the Palestinian people have not really had peace. Additional many other countries are often suffering under the boot of colonialism.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Latest figures are that 61,700 have been killed in Gaza since Oct 7th 2023, so a bit of napkin maths suggest we are 3% of the way towards peace in Gaza through the IDF's preferred method.

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[–] andybytes@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago

So, there's a lot of things happening in Gaza other than what's on the nose. Like starvation can cause neurological issues in the brain, in the body. It can even make your hair turn gray. All the stress. During World War I, soldiers came back with a thing called shell shock, and they would just constantly shake all the time. The kids in Gaza are showing symptoms of shell shock. So I could care less about two people getting killed.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well, fuck. This moron didn't help the Palestinians one bit. Just reinforces propaganda about opposition to the genocide being antisemitic.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure but Israel can kill Palestine's and aid workers from other western countries and nobody cares.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ya only because idiots will read it that way.

Embassy staff are basically political targets, not ethnic ones, but people will read it that way because anything against Israelis is being anti-jew not anti-israel.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

The press will highlight the Jewish Museum part and not the embassy staff part.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think only those who already/still support Israel will see it that way.

Everyone else is sick of their shit and isn't going to buy the "antisemitic" line because it's been milked dry. We are well past the point where them doubling-down on calling everything "antisemitic" is going to sway any new people.

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