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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

They will learn to do everything they can to stop the implementation of ranked choice primaries.

And primaries overall.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would rather progressives become emboldened, run for far more Dem positions, and do a reverse Tea Party to drag the party back towards sanity

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's kinda what happened in 2016, but DNC resistance and progressives' terminal lack of spine (and billionaire money) killed it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Citizens United is the root of all evil, yeah.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Not likely, it doesn't serve their primary corporate interests

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

The Democrat establishment? No.

Democrat voters? Fucking hopefully, and the lesson they hopefully fucking learn is vote in the primaries

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Higher level democrats? No, not at all.

In fact, many of them will see this as a bad thing, and will double down on their establishment ways.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

No, so that's why we need to replace the Democrats by showing up for primaries.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Forgive me such a silly question, but is it possible to... you know... decome a member of the dems and have your say?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Who wants to join a party that is only good at selling weapons to murder Palestinians?

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like I've blocked you a million times.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Centrism: being angry at how frequently you take steps to ignore people to your left.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not angry.

There's only a few users i block.

I'm not a centrist.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

If you say so.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a game of Would You Rather and your answer is "screw you guys, I'm going home."

You can join the Democratic Party and push them towards your beliefs or you can keep pushing them further right, but either way it's only D or R for the foreseeable future.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's what Bernie's people did in 2016. Did you forget? They went through a whole process of trying to win numerous spots and make changes within the Democratic party structure. They got ratfucked by the DNC who shut them down. The DNC went to court and argued the party could ignore their own internal rules to prevent progressives from winning committee spots and taking over the party.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a great argument for getting more progressives deeply placed in the party. Too much of the power structure in the DNC is old libs, only way to change that is to get more of us in place.

Would Bernie be more effective if he was formally a member of the Democratic Party, like how AOC is? I'm not sure, but it is telling he ran in the Dem primary instead of as an independent.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Centrists know this. As he said, it's a game to them. Their objective is to move the party to the right so they get what they want. Which is genocide.

🤣 No, They just learned to double down on rhetoric.

Whaaaa why do people want to eat and afford rent so bad, why can't they just ask daddy for money"

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

LOL! Good one.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Will the democrats learn

Will pigs fly?

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Nope. They'll run all their stupid milquetoast "centrist" candidates like usual.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

No, but we will.