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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 16 points 23 hours ago

Look, if we're serious about having transparency and accountability in law enforcement, it's going to take a lot of work. The starting point would be to require these officers to have their names in large text on the front and back of their shirts, like professional athletes do. They need to be named openly all the time, not just when they're arresting someone, not just in tiny text on a badge that you can't even see when you're 6 ft away.

And most importantly, they need to be locked up or massively fined when they violate their own policy or people's civil rights. When cops are not accountable for their actions, of course they're going to behave like rat bastards.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Even if it passes, this administration and its brown shirts don't give a flying fuck about the law. They'll ignore it, it won't be enforced, Dems will write more angry letters, rinse and repeat.

[–] gaja@lemm.ee 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

But then you might have a chance to argue your second amendment right when you shoot a masked kidnapper.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Bombs and bullets do be the cure for Nazism.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is great, but a) it isn’t going to pass, and b) what about cops going under cover and plainclothes officers? So they get a carve out, or are they made illegal?

How about SWAT teams in gas masks? Sheriffs working in dusty areas wearing bandanas? Riot visors?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

They're basically extending an existing law making wearing a disguise while committing a crime a separate offense, to cover law enforcement while in the performance of their duties. It's already illegal for you to do this as a regular civilian, they're making it the same for law enforcement.

There is an exception for undercover officers. There is zero reason outside those situations for an officer to disguise themselves. SWAT aren't usually disguised, they are very clearly identified as police already and aren't trying to disguise themselves.

Plainclothes officers outside undercover assignments are already a grey area to be honest, too easy for them to purposefully escalate conflicts while making it look natural, and then justify a response to an escalation they created. ICE is just using that to their advantage here.

Existing law makes it a misdemeanor to wear a mask, false whiskers, or any personal disguise, as specified, with the purpose of evading or escaping discovery, recognition, or identification while committing a public offense, or for concealment, flight, evasion, or escape from arrest or conviction for any public offense. This bill would make it a crime for a law enforcement officer to wear any mask or personal disguise while interacting with the public in the performance of their duties, except as specified. The bill would exempt an officer engaged in an undercover assignment from these provisions. The bill would define law enforcement officer as any officer of a local, state, or federal law enforcement agency, or any person acting on behalf of a local, state, or federal law enforcement agency. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program. This bill would declare its provisions to be severable. The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement. This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason.

SB627 | California 2025-2026 | Law enforcement: masks. | TrackBill https://trackbill.com/bill/california-senate-bill-627-law-enforcement-masks/2670575/

This actually is not a particularly vague law. It's pretty clear cut, and requires an intent to disguise. With the ICE bitches there is a clear intent to disguise there and not identify themselves as law enforcement, they've even admitted that is the case.

The mask itself isn't the issue, it's the mask alongside not being not identifying themselves as police via something like a uniform or vest.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

Oh cool a soggy bandaid fix.