This is why it will take decades to undo the damage to the reputation of the United States on the world stage.
The world cannot count on Americans to vote for sanity.
this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2025
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Considered how many countries was couped or bombed by the united snakes, the reputation ahould have been so low for decades
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Pretty sure most poling data has been "adjusted" to fit the narrative of the oligarchy at this point. Think for yourselves kids.
Idk. I want to agree, but that's how we got Qanon. Thinking for yourself without data is just inviting biases to control what you believe to be true.
I want it to be true that America would not have actually chosen Trump, but the older I get the more I see, the more I realize we're surrounded by severely under informed, misinformed, disinformed, igorant, selfish, people. The moment nuance is required to actually understand a situation, you can bet it won't be. :(
I want it to be true that America would not have actually chosen Trump, but the older I get the more I see, the more I realize we're surrounded by severely under informed, misinformed, disinformed, igorant, selfish, people. The moment nuance is required to actually understand a situation, you can bet it won't be. :(
By design, unfortunately :(
Reminder, QANON started on the internet as a joke making fun of Republicans.
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There is lots of data though. Trump had absolutely nothing and got laughed out of courts by judges he appointed.
There is a difference between attesting that people wouldn’t have voted for Trump and attesting that this survey does not prove anything. The latter seems to be the only thing we can deduce here.
This was the Pew Research Center, the most credible polling organization in the US, and in the article it explains how they compensate for potential biases.
They even surveyed 9 times the usual sample size to make sure this was a legitimate trend.
The article is from NPR, the most credible news outlet in the US.
People need to snap out of this denial that the US didn't willingly vote in a fascist because we were sick of stagnation
But what if the data itself is the problem? The Rockland county tampering case may show that the voting machines did not report the actual vote. In that case, we have very good analysis of incorrect data.
Yeah, it's assuming the numbers they're working with weren't changed at the source.
These were bias controlled groups of voters and non voters, this has nothing to do with voting machines
the most credible news outlet in the US
The most credible corporate-funded media outlet in the US.
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The article is from NPR, the most credible news outlet in the US.
No.
This was the Pew Research Center, the most credible polling organization in the US
The most credible car wash is still just a car wash. It’s not magic. Polls get it wrong all the time. 9,000 chosen respondents is as many people as there were in the local grocery store between 8am-5pm. It’s nothing. Yeah they fixed it with math, sure. Because they have all the variables and every one is dead-on. No.
People need to snap out of this denial that the US didn't willingly vote in a fascist because we were sick of stagnation
What
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Fucking NPR goddammit.
The survey of almost 9,000 voters was conducted in the weeks after the 2024 presidential election.
You don’t see any problems with that?
Just remember information can be manipulated to say anything you want.
Just a reminder that it is, in fact, possible for the claim to be true as well.
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Most people vote on vibes - that’s what the data always shows. They follow their peers, community, maybe a trusted authority figure. They are not, and have never been informed on issues, and they aren’t interested in learning more about them. I think those of us who do try to stay informed fall into the trap of thinking “if these folks were only better educated about this issue they would vote differently”. But that has never been and will never be true. Gotta project better vibes, baby!
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“The only correct study pew has ever done.” - Trump
I do wonder whether the story here is that the non-voting population largely mirrors the popular vote. This was the first time in their survey the Republican won the popular vote and the first time their non-voting respondents went toward the Republican candidate.
Which isn't entirely surprising, as both that's probably driving the vibes and many non-voters are not apolitical, but just don't vote because their elections are not competitive.
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