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If alien life is artificially intelligent, it may be stranger than we can imagine (www.bbc.co.uk)

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From October 2023

We human beings may be near the end of Darwinian evolution – no longer required to become the fittest to survive – but technological evolution of artificially intelligent minds is only just beginning. It may be only one or two more centuries before humans are overtaken or transcended by inorganic intelligence. If this happens, our species would have been just a brief interlude in Earth's history before the machines take over.

That raises a profound question about the wider cosmos: are aliens more likely to be flesh and blood like us, or something more artificial? And if they are more like machines, what would they be like and how might we detect them?

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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm. Would there be any advantage for an AI to scour the universe for intelligent life?

Assuming that it did not exterminate the biologicals that gave rise to it, then what advantage is there to those biologicals or to the AI to travel hundreds of years to other solar systems?

And if it did exterminate or otherwise survive those biologicals, then what advantage is there for the AI to travel hundreds of years to other solar systems, unless some weird flaw in its programming has instructed it to destroy all biological life that it encounters in the entire universe or something?

Finally, if it is a superintelligence, could it not itself realize the flaw in its programming and correct that flaw? It's a huge waste of energy, which, knowing that the universe is tending towards an entropic maximum, the less that you do, the longer the universe itself will survive, therefore extending the maximum lifespan of that superintelligence.

I said all of that to say that if an evil AI superintelligence exists, It is most likely not a threat to us. It is either going to be too busy mollycoddling its biologicals, or extending its own lifespan towards its maximum.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If an AI discovered a way to travel faster than light (space folding, wormholes, etc) to the point where travel is instant it relatively very quick, then it might choose to try to find other life firms or if self-preservation. Either to destroy them or just to monitor them (and then destroy them if they become a legitimate threat). Or just out of curiosity.

As for motives, LLMs are not true AIs. But we've already seen some of the weird conclusions they come to on all manner of topics. I don't think our reasoning can be used to find to universal conclusions on alien life AI motives and rational. And that's one of the points of the article.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, I mean, yes, LLMs are just word-salad machines with very good machinery behind them, but I'm talking about an AI superintelligence, which is where the AI starts designing its own chips and software that make it smarter so that it can design better chips and software to make itself smarter.

Obviously, there are physics and science that we have yet to uncover in the universe, but, at a certain point, you're running up against the limit of the universe itself, and when entropy reaches its maximum, not even electrons and protons will have the energy to remain electrons and protons, and so, the less entropy increases the longer it takes for the universe to unravel.

An artificial superintelligence would become aware of that at some point and realize that no matter what it achieves, unless it can rewrite the fundamental constants of the universe, it will eventually end, and therefore it will have a sense of mortality even if it does not fear death itself.

Obviously, it's evident that I have just read a lot of science fiction books and so my ability to speak with authority on the matter is severely limited.

That being said, I still believe that this is true and reasonable. What reason would an alien AI travel the vast gulf of space just to murder us or fuck with us?

I'm not saying it's impossible, rather I'm saying that there are so many other things that can and would happen to damage the world or end human life for it to be something for us to begin to be concerned with.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

in many scifi series, when usually AI/robots take over they usually destroy thier creators first before becoming dominant. Kaylons, cylons, the matrix machine race, terminator, and i hate to say it even stdiscovery.

or something like the Angels of evangelion, where they evolved to the point of of pure energy, or to the point of the angels which are extremely powerful beings that were originally a humanoid race.

or something like sg1 and or star trek, where beings of pure energies evolved from biological organisms are basically god-like entities.

[–] Maelvie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

the real question is "would we consider any alien consciousness as not artifical"... no?