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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I stayed up to date on ai and machine learning, including language models. I remember hearing that one learned math from language and wondering where things will go. I watched ai safety videos before they felt relevant. Then I heard Openai, which had a good rep at the time, is releasing their new model online, called ChatGPT. Having played with DungeonAI and NovelAI before I was gonna fiddle with this as well.

Then headlines broke, it became a phenomenon. Even then I figured this would be this week's Thing before getting bored, as was common with these ai.

Down the line I remembered hearing ChatGPT on a gas station ad for some travel app. That was when I realized this is permanent. People who aren't even online are likely hearing about this. Suddenly my niche hobby and hopeful dreams of the future became an actual enshittified crisis.

I don't think I need to explain how everyone using language models now is just god awful for everyone. And the attention hasn't gotten us closer to answering long standing questions of ethics, economic change, what is intelligence or consciousness. We've just got a bunch of the lowest common denominator shouting their answers now.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I miss when it was just goofy proof of concept s*** like seth bling teaching a neural network to play Super Mario Bros.

Or there was this site called "Thisgirldoesnotexist" with several sister sites like this cat does not exist and so on and it would pretty much just generate a headshot of a character. Extremely primitive versions of the image generation technology seen today. But now it's basically just used to s*** out copious amounts of image files with no purpose and no soul.

[–] Enekk@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

I am an avid collector and drinker of Chinese teas, particularly oolongs and puerh. I had been drinking them for years when suddenly the absolute asshole Dr. Oz went on TV claiming that puerh tea was some magical cure for anything and everything that you might have.

Normally, I get excited for new people to share tea with, but this fad caused prices to rise across the board and caused the market to get flooded with awful quality tea. These people were drinking some of the worst quality (fishy, shou/cooked puerh) teas and were more obsessed with how to mask the flavors with milk and sugar than actually slowing down and enjoying the tea.

The fad faded and people went back to putting matcha in their morning milkshakes. Even so, I still run into people that reflexively associate incredible tea with Dr. Oz and the disgusting teas he foisted upon his audience. Sad.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Not to that extent, but crypto. I think its an amazing and really interesting technology. But now it's tainted by scammers and when people hear the term, they get defensive because they are ready for you to scam them

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

My ex wife and I used to take a chess board everywhere, play in cafes, parks, restaurants, pubs. It was something to do when we had run out of stuff to say to each other. It was a conversation starter, people would come up and have a sticky, or ask us who's winning. Some people would occasionally ask if they can play. It was nice. Until Queens Gambit was all the rage. Then people seemed to assume we were just following that trend, and there was a noticeable increase in people saying "Queens Gambit eh?" And we stopped taking the board out so much.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Star Wars

This happened to all the ols school Star Wars fans. Disney created the "idiot fans"

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

All of the more recent Star Wars slop has made me realize that the original films aren't really that good either.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bite your tongue. Like a lot of things from the past, they need to be viewed in context

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean they are objectively poor in a lot of ways, but you're spot on. At the time they were fricking mind blowing. Space opera/space cowboys on the big screen! Before that we had what? 2001 and star trek?

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[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I keep getting people telling me they won't watch Andor because of the other slop and it makes me sad

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[–] fishy@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yup. Was a huge fan of the EU books and lore. Wanted to give Disney a chance, so I saw the first few movies. It was like seeing your ex at the club but she'd gone through massive amounts of plastic surgery and they'd removed all the unique features that attracted you originally. Haven't watched anything Star Wars since the second movie in the new trilogy, literally 0 desire to see the conclusion or any new Star wars content.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Yea, Disney swore off all of the EU books stating they had no place in Star Wars. Then they started stealing portions of the EU books and basically making bad fanatic versions of them.

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Old school Star Wars fans harassed the actor who played jar jar to the point that he considered suicide...

[–] CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat with a few others here when it comes to some games like Halo and Fallout. But I feel like I'm on the brink with 2 new ones:

  • Doom: I played the original when I was a kid and got bullied for it (or probably being a general nerd). 2016 and Eternal were really popular and the franchise took off; but Dark Ages feels off. I played Dark Ages for a bit, put it down, and haven't picked it up since. I think Doom is going down the shitter, especially what they did to Mick Gordon.
  • Mother Mother (a band): My SO and I love their music for how unique and interesting it is; and we went to one of their first concerts at a small venue when they came into town ~10 years ago ish? Must have been <500 people. Generally no one else liked their music we shared it with, so we kept it to ourselves. Now? We went to another one a few months ago and it was at a HUGE stadium; absolutely packed. I think one of their songs went viral on TikTok - My Daddy's got a gun. We're proud of what they've accomplished, but really hope they don't lose their identity in trying to become even more popular.
[–] Impleader@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TIL Mother Mother is popular now. Loved O My Heart back in the day

[–] CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

This was from the concert. Pretty packed

[–] youngskywalker@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dune before the movie came out

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

The Lynch one, right?

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Goddamnit yes. It’s why I’m very pro-gatekeeping. Because people who are new to a hobby because it got popular tend to ruin every-fucking-thing.

For example: flight simulator. That used to be an exclusively nerd domain up until the FS2020 version, which was released on Xbox. The result: a massive influx of new garbage payware and a decline in quality of established brands. While also making the sim worse in order to chase broader appeal. It’s gotten a bit better after covid went away and the normies dropped the hobby, thankfully.

Also: film photography. The popularity of instagram and YouTube ‘influencers’ got a lot of people into our hobby the past decade. It’s lead to increased gear prices, film being more difficult to get and the forums flooding with the dumbest possible questions, since these newcomers are allergic as fuck to reading manuals or watching any tutorial longer than thirty seconds. It’s also lead camera manufacturers to chase this new demographic by making their cameras shittier and more ‘instagram-friendly’. Here’s looking at you, Fujifilm and your shitty X-half.

Take it from someone who’s been around a bit: if you like a thing, keep newcomers away from it. Gatekeep it like the Berlin Fucking Wall, lest they completely fuck up your hobby.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It's equally as bad when you discover you like something that has been around for a while and has lots of fans and you don't get accepted or realise you don't want to be part of the fans because of how shitty, toxic, dumb etc. they are. A relevant example for this is Assassin's creed for me. I never like any of the games until AC: Origins, even though I gave most of them a fair shake. AC: Origins is a 10/10 for me, I put in over 600h hours into that game, 100%'ed it and all its expansions/dlc. AC: Odyssey is good too, but I never got as into it, so a 8/10. Valhalla never looked good in any way so never even tried it. Started playing Shadows about a week ago and really enjoying it so far, not as good as Origins but mostly better than Odyssey. But damn do people not like when I mention this, like I'm not allowed to like it because I didn't like the earlier games. I have no issue with people liking them and not the ones I do, never said anything else. Music is a lot like this too. "Oh, you like their newer stuff? Fucking idiot, only the early stuff is good, I now see down on you as a person and hate every opinion you have".

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This happens to most things I like. I really liked JoJo's Bizarre adventure when the anime was first coming out and I read all the manga and then when part 3 got super popular the fandom became completely insufferable to the point where I was stopped recommending the show or keeping up with any updates. I have also been really into AI/language models/machine image generation for years before ChatGPT exploded and now "being into AI" usually means "Exporting rational thought to a chatbot." I also feel like reddit is like this.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jojo's was popular for a while before I got into it. I was very confused by part 1, because none of it lined up with what I was expecting from the memes and general online discourse. It was good, I liked it. Part 2 with the Pillar Men was the thing I watched that year.

Part 3 was awful. Jotaro is the worst jojo. They did my boy Joseph dirty. Hamon is much more interesting than stands. I could not force myself to finish watching part 3.

[–] tohuwabohu@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I felt the same about Stardust Crusaders but pulled through. The second half is substantially better with E34 (D'Arby the Gambler) being my favorite episode of the show.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I remember that episode, was a good episode. shame that nothing that happened in it actually mattered to the overarching plot.

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