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California residents who lit illegal fireworks over the July 4 holiday may be in for a nasty surprise in the mail thanks to covert fire department operations.

A number of California cities, including Sacramento, have begun using drones to locate people shooting off illegal fireworks. From Wednesday to Saturday night, the Sacramento Fire Department’s special fireworks task force patrolled the streets with unmarked cars and drones, focusing on neighborhoods where they’ve had prior complaints. Task force officers and the drones took photos of the illegal activity, and within 30 days the property owner where the fireworks were used could receive a fine in the mail.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Might become surprisingly relevant as fireworks and other explosives could be used in an attack on ICE vehicles and infrastructure.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 2 hours ago

It's the fire department doing the monitoring for those in a state where drought and wildfires are huge concerns.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago

But why did drone have illegal fireworks

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Next year's move is to mount the illegal fireworks to your own drone and hunt theirs out of the sky.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 16 points 10 hours ago

This new series of Battlebots sounds pretty entertaining.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

This is nice in theory since everybody hates those assholes at 1am lighting off fireworks still. But, using a drone to find people in the dark, identify them, and fine them, there is so much worse shit this will be used for. And we won't be happy when the fascists come knocking bcz of this technology. We reap what we sow i guess.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Just what I was thinking. Some 1984 shit right here.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Facial recognition technology being used for surveillance is awful, I agree, but I don't think that's what's happening here? It seems like they're just pointing a camera at fireworks, and identifying the property they came from.

Cops with camera drones are also a problem, but it's not like they'd need anything special you can't already get off the shelf to do this.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How do you think they identify people in the dark, maybe street addresses? Either way, its not good news.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago

Cross reference it with where the drone is and where it's looking. You don't need to know who is physically setting off fireworks to know who is living on the property. Hell you could achieve the same effect with a big stick and a camera.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 26 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I miss the days when the obnoxious fireworks were illegal in my state :sigh:

This year, Sacramento upped the fine to $1,000 for the first firework, $2,500 for the second and $5,000 per firework after that. If you lit a firework on city property, such as a park or a school, the fine goes up to $10,000 each. There’s no limit to how many fines you can be issued.

“If we see multiple fireworks being used at a single property, we can stack the violations based upon how many fireworks they're using,” SFD Fire Marshal Jason Lee told KCRA. “So, it could be thousands of dollars per location.”

Hell yeah. Keep me awake till 3 am with your constant "boom boom boom", that's gonna cost ya. The only thing that would make this story better is if after a certain threshold, they bring in armed Predator drones.

If I'm coming off a bit cranky, it's because I've barely slept in 4 days.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Have you called the police? They fucking suck, but even in legal states they still have city ordinances that don't allow lighting off fireworks all night long. I know in the last city I lived in that allowed them, you had to stop by 2230 and they typically enforced it on every day that wasn't the 4th of July. The city went on to eventually ban fireworks year-round except for NYE and a 2-week window around the 4th.

My point is, if your city doesn't have these types of ordinances, you should rally local support to get them implemented. I guarantee you there are tons of people who feel the same as you about assholes lighting off big booms at 1am.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Unincorporated suburb, so no ordinance other than just being shitty, inconsiderate neighbors.

Best (only?) case would be a county ordinance.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh, damn... Yeah, that sucks. Do you guys have HOAs, at least? I know they get a bad wrap, but properly run HOAs can be a large boon for unincorporated neighborhoods.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Nope, and that was one of the selling points when I bought the place years ago lol.

Plus, the HOA zone would have to be massive since sound travels far and wide when those things fire off.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 13 hours ago

There was a drone (prop plane type, not quadcopter) flying over neighborhoods for a while on the 4th, wouldn't surprise me if it was from the city to catch people. This being in Ohio.

Like, i get it; first few 4th of julys after I turned 18 i bought fireworks too, and it was fun. At a certain point the novelty wore off and it was stupid and dangerous, and i was literally blowing hundreds of dollars for no real reason.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

How about huge dunes for tax dollars going to violations of the constituents 4th amendment rights?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 14 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

If you’re setting off fireworks, you have no expectation of privacy.

It’s shouting “look at me!” for miles around.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

An expectation of privacy has literally nothing to do with the 4th amendment.

[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Seriously. I hate when people who have no idea how the law works start throwing around the Constitution. Like how is it “unreasonable search and seizure” for the government to use cameras to see who’s setting off literal sky-high explosives in their backyard? That definitely falls under the realm of ‘reasonable’ govt actions lol

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 8 points 12 hours ago

Plus it’s outside where there already is t an expectation of privacy? It’s always been legal in the US to take photos from the street/sky for evidence

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Which part of "persons, houses, papers, and effects", any even any kind of private property, is the air above your house?