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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You guys have designers??

My buddy works with a big government org and they just let the engineers/SW devs "handle" all the design on their own. Sometimes they get kinda lucky and the dev took one or two UI/UX course back in school, but regardless they end up with a bunch of software that's all utility, no usability.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As a software engineer, if its utility is high then so is its usability.

[–] Brownboy13@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a front-end dev, I disagree. You can make something optimized for utility from multiple perspectives. It might be for power users or for the ability to see as much data in one place, or even to change and configure as many things as possible. But these approaches don't necessarily make it user friendly. Sometimes the most usable flow requires deoptimization.

Have you seen the old SAP UIs? Lots of utility. Complicated as hell usability.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I guess there’s a reason I run Linux - I can make it work the way /I/ want it to - and not some way somebody at Microsoft thinks I want it to.

As someone who maintains old software and is looking for a new job, you seem to be indicating I should be a back end dev lol

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hard disagree. If your web app needs a user guide, it's a bad web app. Design has to provide something that's intuitive to the end user nowadays.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you tried reading the man page?

[–] RainDog@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

I prefer tldr (or tealdeer)!

Depends on the task. Sometimes you need to aboid sacrificong too much utility.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 3 days ago

Just look at the Lemmy UI vs basically every third party app. Same utility but vastly different usability.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

This is exactly why, as a graphic designer, I'm currently trying to upskill into other areas. I have reached the peak in my career as just a graph designer and no one will want to hire me at my current salary. So for now, I work at a big evil corporation that can pay my salary while I learn skills that can maybe help me get a different job later at a higher salary. So maybe I can get a more morally sound job as something else like a project manager or something else boring, but bring my design skills with me that can help these smaller companies improve their brand and UX.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why genAI is trending among normies. It's digital art, computer music, programming, etc., as just they imagined.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pictures not art. Difference.

Pretty pictures are fine. Not necessarily art. We have not yet created machines that can art. Languahe hasn't caught up yet.

[–] razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

Fast, cheap, and good. Clients expect all three of those qualities, if they are even able to accurately describe what they want in the first place. Usually at best you can have two.