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"I hate these damn bike lanes. Screw your studies. I'm not reading that"

"Cut gas taxes. I see no reason why I should pay to support public transit"

"Fuck speed limits. I'm proud to break the law"

This sense of entitlement is insane.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I love bike lanes and public transit. But yeah. Fuck the snitch cams.

If you want to hand out pointless tickets you should have a cop set a speed trap. As per long standing tradition.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It doesn't help that the way these cams are rolled out involves just lowering speeds on roads that have had consistent speeds listed for decades , then dinging people who speed. On the internet you can find extremists of every type. Doing 11 over the speed limit is not in any way equivalent to doing 50 over, nor does lowering the speed limit on existing roads always lead to safety increases or accident reductions. It can sometimes , but the internet would have you believe that it always absolutely works, the 10s of millions cities gain in revenue from this doesn't affect their deployment decisions of cameras at all, and someone doing 11 over the speed limit (often 9 under the former limit on that road) is a terrible human being.

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

My theory is that driving a vehicle feels the same as waiting in a line/queue, since you're not doing anything active. So people try and minimize their time "waiting" as much as possible. Even if they're already traveling at an extreme speed. Basically cars fuck with our brains.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

This is actually a real phenomenon and it's called velocitization.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 6 days ago

Honestly makes a lot of sense

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That's what podcasts are for.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Automated speeding cams only end up extracting money from working people and worsening wealth inequality.

You can not force people to do daily commutes and expect them to remain stable.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Speed cameras are a money grab and should be abolished because they don't actually result in safer driving and really is just a revenue generator.

Instead non-highway roads should be narrowed or otherwise calmed (and use that extra space for bike/pedestrian paths), this naturally causes almost all drivers to slow down, which increases safety. (source)

[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Maybe we can have both?

Identify problem areas, put up a camera, and use the ticket revenue to help pay for a better designed road there, so that when it’s rebuilt it’s the features of the road dictate the speed limit, and the sign and camera can be removed.

[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

Are speed cameras really effective? There are multiple studies that looked at this.

And the answer is yes, they are:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1963295/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3861844/

The car crashes that happen in Ontario cost society far more ressources (police, hospitals, nurses, medication, surgeries) that any of the money raised by speeding tickets.

Road narrowing is a great idea. It can be applied to local streets.

But the people who hate speed cameras are going to absolutely FREAK OUT if you suggest road narrowing as a potential solution.

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] discomatic@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago (7 children)

As someone who had their life ruined by a speeding driver who ignored a red light, fuck anyone who speeds.

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[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I'm actually sympathetic to these folks, because there's a bunch of studies that show that people drive the speed that feels safe. You can't engineer a road to be safe for 15 mph over the posted speed limit and be shook when folks do the speed that feels safe (the US does this ALL THE TIME). That kind of engineering is all but guaranteeing that an enforcement control is going to be a money printer.

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[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Their twitter is full of other such wisdumb

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I find that speeders often assume that it is only their driving skill that should define their speed. They don't acknowledge that they will be driving in traffic or what the roads sight lines might be. They are also often delusional about how good a driver they are. There are many times when following a speeder that has woven through traffic that you can visually see all the cars that swerved or hit the brakes so that the "excellent driver" could get through unscathed.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My impression is that there has been an unspoken compromise between safety advocates and ordinary drivers, with the safety advocates getting to set low speed limits and the drivers getting to ignore those speed limits. Speed cameras are putting an end to that compromise. I wonder if that will generate the political will necessary to increase speed limits - there are, after all, a lot more speeders than safety advocates.

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