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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 56 points 2 days ago

As someone said, the problem with Australia is not that its culture is descended from convicts but that its culture is descended from jailers.

[–] FundMECFS@quokk.au 3 points 1 day ago

Yet the Australian people are not much better at reckoning with the fact they live in a settler colonial state than the USians.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“All men are created equal. Also those men will remain my slaves.”

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

Some founding father: By men we mean WASP landowners of English/French/German heritage, right?

Jefferson probably: it's so obvious it goes without saying

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

+only land owners may vote…

I never quite got the Americans obsession with the constitution, was it not largely based on british law and changed like 30 times?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  1. No
  2. Revisions don’t change the fact that it’s the nation’s charter of rights. They still teach the Magna Carta, don’t they?
[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yes1? “…the U.S. Bill of Rights, which are the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution, were heavily influenced by British law, particularly the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Many of the rights and protections outlined in the U.S. Bill of Rights have roots in British legal traditions and historical documents like Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights…” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States)

Yes2? “…The U.S. Constitution has been amended 27 times…” (https://archivesfoundation.org/amendments-u-s-constitution/

-There is no borderline religius infatuation with the magna carta, nor ant other charter of rights

[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 16 points 2 days ago

Australian for father's were also racist.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean... being a criminal is wayyyy cooler than being racist

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, they were racist too. I don't think that there's anything native Americans endured that Australian Aborigines didn't have just as bad. Iirc the Aborigines were legally considered "flora and fauna" or something like that.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I definitely agree, the two aren't mutually exclusive and I'm sure a majority were racist, but one is objectively cooler than the other when all else is equal

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 2 days ago
[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They were limited by the ignorance of their time. …….Or whatever Tony Starks dad said.